Reef Runner

Great stuff Rob............as always

Makes sense Barton - (my bad)

Hmmmm ............. hadn't thought about stacking ! Oh, well

I'M OUT --- Sorry Mark, I just realized that I have a brand new SuperSonic in my bag, that I purchased last summer and have yet to fly. I too, was confused about which kite your were offering, and which one I had. I suppose this will help the odds a bit........ I lose and you might have to send it to me try out!! Well Wayne, do you want me to get back in ? If I do, and if I win, then I'll ask Mark to ship it to you............BUT, you'll have to supply the next "prize", and run the next Karma drawing ! It's your call buddy ! I just don't really need 2 SuperSonics, although mine is a "mid-vent" !

I'M OUT --- Sorry Mark, I just realized that I have a brand new SuperSonic in my bag, that I purchased last summer and have yet to fly. I too, was confused about which kite your were offering, and which one I had. I suppose this will help the odds a bit........

Rob's right..........and they are all pretty "easy to fly" kites. Just put them up and let 'em go............. I've had/got 'em all, and if they are good quality kites, they'll pin themselves to the sky, and stay there. I put 'em all up to 500 ft, and no problems......... I

Thanks Bart . I've just been sitting on the side-lines................

I'm IN................................. Just for the hell of it !

Really ?

You shouldn't have said that............

Not you !

Yep, I too, dislike a single shoulder strap. As Wayne mentions, they always want to slip off, and usually require an extra hand, to keep them in place. On a personal note, I rarely carry my kite bag, any further than from the garage to the back of my truck, so I really don't need a shoulder strap, or double straps. When I get to where I'm going to fly, I normally park, open the tailgate, unzip my kite bag, and assemble the kite (rev or dualie) of choice, right there, at the back of my truck. Then, all I need is a set of lines, handles or straps, and a kite stake. I'm usually no more than 25' to 50' from the back of the truck, while I'm flying, so not much walking involved, plus it's not a problem to just walk back to the truck, should I want another kite, water, or whatever. I suppose it all depends on what you need, and your own personal circumstances......... (just my $.02) If I'm at the coast, I simply carry the kite(s) I'm going to fly, up the dunes or out onto the beach, fully assembled, along with line-set, handles, and stake.........

IMHO, that's the perfect Rev bag, especially if you put your individual Revs, back into their sleeves, which I always do. I've been using that same bag (MLD from Rudy's) for years now, except mine is black with only one red outside pocket. If I were going to do it again, I would probably add the second pocket, but mine has been quite adequate, so far. Otherwise, it's roomy, easy to access, and tough. I didn't order the optional shoulder strap, so I eventually removed the "D" rings and tabs, simply because they just kept getting in the way when zipping the bag. Again, this is a very substantial bag (1000 denier Cordura), and it will give you many years of service. Good choice and well worth investigating, should anyone be looking !

Check ! Less time walking back and forth, equals more time flying That's my procedure for setting up, exactly. When I take down, I land inverted, stake the handles (actually I then remove the handles, loop the pairs, and then stake the paired loops). I then go to the kite, disconnect the lines, loop the pairs and lay them out on the ground, side by side I then disassemble the kite, roll it up, tuck it under my arm, and then I proceed to wrap my lines, on a single winder, back to the stake. Again, saves another trip...............

Out of sheer interest, I continue to read this topic, simply because I'm always interested in the different methods that people use, to wind and secure their lines. Since beginning with quad line kites, I have heard several people mention this method, of winding lines directly onto the handles. I have never understood it, and I have just finished reading two, detailed descriptions of this method, posted by two well respected Kitelife members, yet still, I'm not getting it. Once again, I am not looking for help, nor am I contemplating changing my winding method, as I clearly have my own madness engrained in my mind, and I wouldn't dare try to change that clear image, at this point. Just to be clear, I've used JB's standard tutorial method for years, with a few personal quirks thrown in, and it has served me well, so far, and just as JB mentions somewhere, it's unually "three minutes out, and three minutes in". The only reason that I even comment again, is that I am trying to put myself in povlhp's place, and I am likewise trying to comprehend this, "winding directly onto the handles" method, and it's still just not coming through, not clear enough to give it a try, anyway. I think that the old saying, "a picture is worth a thousand words", would be appropriate here. If anyone has a video, or just a few good photos of this procedure, I'm sure it would be quite helpful to those that may be trying to follow this method. Even a single picture of a completely wound set of lines, might help. Again, it's just not coming through, loud & clear

Top leaders probably need to be as long as the entire handle, if not longer...........Bottom leaders look ok..............

Best bet is "email Prism"............we'd just be guessing.

Not that I have a problem winding my lines (I don't), but I can definitely see the delima, in picturing this, especially without pics......... With all due respect, Paul, I likewise, do not understand clearly, your description of winding onto the handles. Povlhp..........look at the Kitelife video............http://kitelife.com/forum/videos/view-41-rev-tutorial-line-management/ Look at it again, and then look at it again. Now that you have looked at it...........Look at it one more time. Now, go out in the yard and practice what you saw. Nothing helps more than doing it.......... Don't wait till you are out on the flight deck to practice...........that's for flying ! Also, you may want to read my post #15 I'm just a rookie, but I can wind and unwind my lines......NO PROBLEM Take a peek..................http://kitelife.com/forum/topic/5347-winding-up-lines/page-2#entry35006 And please, I'm not disagreeing with anything that Paul has said, but, everyone has to develop their own, unique, method. There is no real, "perfect wind" method...........figure it out and make it your own !

Oh, sorry, I missed that ................now that makes it quite a bit better.............

10 mpg ? The regular gas Tahoe gets better than that ??? 16 city, 23 highway......................something doesn't seem right, are you sure about that ? ..........still a cool vehicle, but gotta do better than 10 mpg, or what's the point..........aaaagh

That's too much. Rob, I just don't know how you handle that kind of cold ! My fingers and feet would be freezing. You must have really wanted to fly bad, that day. I'm even more impressed with the Tahoe. I didn't even realize, that GM made a Hybrid Tahoe...........how cool ! (err, cold)

Congratulations Russel......................Fly on !

That is the point of multiples until secure. A flying sand anchor would hurt a bit also I am speaking of like 4 to 6' sections hammered in. Comprenda, my friend ! Scott, I was just saying, I think I'd rather get hit by a moving bag of sand, than a flying piece of steel. Really don't want to get slammed by either, but when an improperly planted stake comes out of the ground, it's going to be flying with a lot of speed and force. I've really never seen a sand anchor go flying, maybe sliding along across the beach, but I never saw one go flying. Of course, I haven't had any tremendous SLK's hooked to my sand anchors, either. I know there are many kites out there, that could probably launch you and me together, but I'd even rather get hit by you, than a flying piece of steel. You're right though, if done correctly, it's most likely going to hold, under normal circumstances. Unfortunately, too many people will just go out and slap a spike in the ground, and expect it to hold the Hindenburg. You know, you just can't fix stupid............ Carry on my friend - all is well !

Yep, I like sand anchors, you just gotta dig. The only problem with all those steel (metal stuff) anchors, spikes, etc. is........."IF THEY EVER DO GIVE WAY", you've now got a genuine "flying missile" on your hands, going through the atmosphere at a very high rate of speed, which of course, could put a real hurt, if not worse, on an innocent bystander...........Just take care and use good judgement, and all should be ok !

Yep, you're going to need to anchor them further apart, than the length of a lawnmower. Good Luck..............