Reef Runner

Not sure about yelling. I think that JB is sleeping in today............

Yep, and a good first tutorial, "before you get tangled up", would be "Line Management". It's hard to emphasize how important this is, and how frustrating it can be, if you screw it up ! Watch it, then watch it again and again. Then after that, watch it some more, until you can see it in your mind's eye and hear JB talking. Then go outside and practice it. Unwind then rewind, unwind, then rewind After that, you may (or may not) want to watch the video tutorial on "Assembly & Disassembly"..... Then do it a couple of times with your new Rev. It may be best to do it indoors the first few times, because it can be somewhat difficult, if you happen to have a howling wind your first time out. Once you have these two very important steps mastered, then you will be ready for the field, and as Tmadz said, nothing beats "Time on the Lines". Also, if you have someone close by, that might go with you and help, on your first outing, it could save you a bunch of time.........good luck ! Line Management - http://kitelife.com/forum/videos/view-41-rev-tutorial-line-management/ Assembly & Disassembly - http://kitelife.com/forum/videos/view-40-rev-tutorial-assembly-and-disassembly/

KuRev..............Congratulations on your new Rev. Get to the coast, or the bay, and enjoy your kite. As many others have alluded, you are definitely going to want more and more Revs once you learn to fly, and progress - so get prepared. Also, looking back at my previous post, where I suggested a Mid-Vent as your first Rev, please understand that I made that suggestion based on my own personal experiences. I did mention the fact that - "Others will have different & valid opinions, but I have found with every set, that I have owned personally, I have always ended up flying the mid-vent sail, the majority of the time." Again, I made that statement, simply as an expression of my personal opinion and experiences. I also followed that up with - "This decision may be dictated by wind conditions, or other personal preferences, so again, that's just my experience, and my personal opinion." Maybe I should have prefaced that by saying, that the majority (95%) of my flying is done in clean coastal winds, which incidentally, are a real joy, when flying a Rev. As I mentioned in that earlier post, you have indeed received many of those "different & valid opinions", all from Rev veterans, that "know of what they speak". As you may have seen, we all fly differently, in different locations, and under different wind conditions, hence the wide range of suggestions that you have received. I suppose that's one of the great things about Kitelife. You ask a wide open question, and you will get a wide range of opinions, from a great cross-section of flyers, no matter what it is you are asking about. It's then up to you, to decide what is best for your situation. I do hope that you will be happy with your decision. Oh, and good luck in the drawing today. Wouldn't that be great if you won that "B"

More food for thought........ Many people (not everyone), prefer for their sets to match. This is so you always have the same visual picture in the sky, whether you are flying the standard, mid-vent, or the full-vent sail. Should you (being totally new to quad line kites) have an unplanned landing (total disaster), and then need to replace one of those kites in your set, you'll find that the B-series will be more readily available, at most kite stores, as well as on-line (plus as PereiraM mentioned, the cost will be much less). As for the B-Pros, not that they can't be replaced (they surely can), but being the Lamborghini that they are, the B-Pro (if custom) could, and probably will take weeks to get replaced, as compared to ordering a regular B-series on-line... As for which kite to get first (std, mid, or full), my initial choice would be the mid-vent (if getting only one). Others will have different & valid opinions, but I have found with every set, that I have owned personally, I have always ended up flying the mid-vent sail, the majority of the time. This decision may be dictated by wind conditions, or other personal preferences, so again, that's just my experience, and my personal opinion. To me, the mid-vent is just that - middle of the range - and it's wind range stretches both ways, just not quite as low as the standard, or as high as the full-vent. Once again, if $$$'s are not a problem, go for the full set. Oh, and as for that matching color scheme, that I mentioned earlier - don't think that it's a must. The last full set of B2's that I purchased, are three entirely different colors, but still, I fly the red one 90% of the time....(guess what that is).... Again, it's all in what feels right for you !

I agree with PereiraM. You are not just looking at "1" new B-Pro. Whatever you are flying, or planning on getting, you will eventually want a set (std, mid, full). Again, if you have the extra buck$$$ laying around, by all means go for it. B-Pros "rule"................. I've had Rev I's, SLE's, sets of B's, sets of B-Pros, Rev II's, and sets of B2's. All are great (kites) Revs, indeed, but I've got to say, the B-Pros are definitely "TOPS", but, "TOPS" come at a price. As for your original question.......longevity is a "tough" call. It's all going to depend on the way you fly (and crash) the kites. All kites need a bit of "TLC", however, any of these Revs will last you a long, long time, IF, you take care of them, and keep the abuse (and crashes) to a minimum.......... Please understand, this is just "my" personal opinion...............which is worth exactly what it cost you to read this post.............

What a great story, and what a rewarding outcome.............thanks for sharing that

Great stories guys................somebody else jump in..........keep this thing going

Yep, and I think you were instrumental in starting it................... BTW, whats all those numbers (001110000011010000110100) in your signature ?

Ok, it's time for someone else to step up to the plate...........let's hear it from some of you newbies (no disrespect intended).....

Exactly............ 01101111 01110010 00100000 01110011 01101000 01101111 01110101 01101100 01100100 00100000 01001001 00100000 01110011 01100001 01111001 00101100 00100000 01100101 01111000 01100001 01100011 01110100 01101100 01111001 00100000 00111111

Worry not, Wayne will chime in, after a bit...............He'll jump right on this......... Oh, BTW, here is the RNG , just play with it gently............ http://www.random.org/sequences/ Now, go to the members part of this forum, and look up the RNG under the R's. He's located on page 9.............

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Hmmmm! The RNG will never fall for that one either - trying to influence it with an innocent child ! Here, try this instead..........

Ah Ha ! Another "sly" tactic - from the right coast

Yea, but after that outburst, your boat might be floating a bit low in the water.......Still, I hope it works for you (like you really need another Rev)

Ah Ha ! Now I know what's going on. This is your "NEW" tactic - taking a real "attitude" towards the RNG. Well, good luck with that I'll be pulling for you (kinda)

Hmmmm ! That might not be the best idea you ever had, Wayne.......... I think the RNG has a long memory, too !

Gosh Wayne, I kinda like the old RNG. It's been pretty darn good to me, in both the Kitelife drawings and the Karma drawings. No wonder you never win anything, talking such trash about our good friend & buddy, "the noble RNG"............. Sheeeesh !

Hmmm...........I was going to try that !

Hey Wayne, It appears you've got another chance now. Try something NEW, this time ! I'm already working on my new tactic

Beautiful kites, beautiful flights. You do amazing work, both at the sewing table, and on the flying field.................

Hi Nick, Welcome aboard...........as for your problem: I've used cleaners such as 409, Greased Lightning, etc., with good results (I don't use anything with bleach). I always make sure that the material is thoroughly wet first. Then I spray some cleaner onto the bristles of a scrub brush (not the kite). With the material held tight (on a flat surface), I give the spot/stain a good scrubbing with the brush. I then immediately rinse off the entire area with the water hose, as I continue to brush the affected area lightly. Once there is no more trace of suds, I give the entire kite a good rinse down, with the water hose, and hang it in the sun to dry. I've never had a problem, and usually had good results with the clean up. I wouldn't think that mold and/or mildew, should be a problem. If it's just a very small spot, maybe the alcohol method that Wayne mentioned, might be easier for you. However, if it's a large area, I would try the scrubbing method. If you are concerned about the "de-greaser" type cleaners, mentioned above, try something milder first. There is nothing much milder than "Dawn" dish-washing detergent. Of course, mild detergents are just that - mild - and some stains simply require something a bit stronger. If in doubt, take an old toothbrush, and try one of the stronger cleaners (as described above), on an inconspicuous spot on the kite. If you don't experience any discoloration or fabric degradation, go for a larger area. Just be sure to use lots of water and rinse thoroughly. Good Luck.......... A little extra information: The Peter Lynn Impulse is made out of 40 denier and 70 denier Mirai ripstop nylon. Mirai was introduced in 2005 as a basic ripstop nylon fabric for sport and foil kites; kites that require a high quality fabric which is resistant to wear and tear, has good airtightness, and which easily absorbs shocks. And exactly those features make Mirai an excellent fabric for a much wider range of applications, among which inflatable objects, skydancers, art objects, apparel, protection and cover products, as well as a range of medical devices. Mirai is an outstanding, durable fabric with an unmatched price/performance ratio and all-round usability for all those applications where high performance, durability, and light weight are important. Bottom-line - it's a pretty darn tough, ripstop nylon fabric - and I wouldn't consider it delicate, at all......

Rob, Here's one I made sometime back, especially for winding-in SLK's. It's made from a 3/4" thick by 4" pine board. The shape and design were just something I came up with. The holes were intended to reduce the weight a bit, and to allow a good place to tie onto the line. The two golf balls are drilled through the centers, and attached to the winder with long screws. The balls turn freely on the screws, so you can tie on and crank away. Tension or no tension, it's not likely to break......

Great News !

No problem...........Hope it works out for you..........