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And that's exactly the way you want to start -- no ocean, no river, no waves, no current, no underwater plants to get stuck in. For your first attempts a fountain or pool may be the best. A good choice is a clear lake with a sandy bottom that is clear of weeds for a good distance from shore. Try it when you have a strong, consistent wind. Dip it part way until you get a feel for the extra weight. When the kite is in the water, a slow steady pull will move it. You can't move it fast in water so don't try. Go on holiday to the Bahamas and take the kite with you is the ideal way to do it. P.S. -- Take me with you.

I like that! Fly, or don't -- the wind doesn't care.

More likely it is a difference in the sail tension adjustment. Everybody's is a bit different, and crisper, newer and by default flatter and tighter sails are more prone to bowtie. Once the sail begins to stretch with age, it cups more and the tendency to bowtie decreases. You can experience this by loosening the bungees by about 3/8 of an inch and comparing.

I wasn't aware of that. Can you explain, or do I have to come to a clinic to get the answer? Never mind, I just figured it out. Keep the hands down near the waist for maximum range of motion -- but I don't think the issue he's having is as simple as that. Hey, Russ, try keeping your hands lower to see if that helps.

Power foils have an airfoil cross-section designed to create as much lift as possible. Lift=power. Surface area=power.This results in a thicker, larger airfoil. Thicker and larger creates more drag, so to make a quad airfoil that's got some zip, use the thinnest/smallest airfoil available in whatever size you are considering. The proportion of thickness/surface will make a difference. I'm guessing that something near the middle between the two extremes would be the most suitable for conversion to quad. I doubt that many, if any, have been designed with specifically that goal in mind.

Congratulations, Rob.

Yeah, that helps?!

Dammit. Stop building kites. You make me look lazy! Looks like a winner to me!

Put very simply: If it feels like it's out of control it is. Don't fly it if you can't control it.

The constrictor variation of the clove hitch would actually be quite good for this purpose. The clove hitch, when tied around a smooth surface, such as plastic, tends to loosen when tension is released. The constrictor will continue to grip the fitting once you break down the kite so you don't lose your adjustment each time.

So, back about 9 years got flying quads. Bought a Rev 1.5 SLE and was having lots of fun, except on very windy days when control went out the window and I spent most of the time just trying not to crash. Hey, a vented kite will solve that problem, right? Yup, so I bought a Rev Phantom 1.5 vented. Kite arrives, wind stops blowing. For 5+ weeks it stays at zip or at least a lot less than the full vent needed at my level of expertise. Enough to fly the standard sail sometimes, but not the vented. That will teach you patience and frustration in equal doses.

The 2.2 Symphony may be a bit much for them in "stronger" gusty wind, but it is a kite they can grow into, assuming they will grow some. As long as you choose the wind you fly in carefully, they'll be ok. I had a Thunderfoil 2.4 (very similar) that put me on my face and I broke a rib in the process. At the time I weighed 155 pounds and was flying the kite in 15+ wind. Just remember to respect the wind. You've seen what tornadoes and hurricanes can do.

It's ok. You'll be fine. Just trust me. Mwahaahaha.

Yes, and have been since one year old. Parents emigrated here after WW2. I visited my place of birth twice. I liked it a whole lot more than I like Chicago, but roots and friends are here, so here I stay.

Many folks around the world sit there praying for a breeze of any kind. I guess bad or badass wind is better than none at all? Unless you fly indoor a lot and take it outside.

Best way is to call Prism and ask for "tech support" to walk you through it, or you can just hang loose until someone who flies a 4D chimes in here. The folks at Prism are usually friendly and helpful. I tried Googling the info, but only found the same manual you did.

It's close, but not quite Wales. Why barely? It's no closer than Liverpool is.

I gotta laugh! My first quad handles were wooden home-made. Was between jobs and couldn't afford the real thing. Flew on home-made fishing line lines too. Sewed the kite myself. Frame from a McMaster-Carr catalog. The whole setup cost less than $60 in materials. If you want to know what it looked like, see my avatar. That's the one.

You'll just have to make do with what is available. Sorry.

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I wish I could come by and help. I think I qualify as a UK flyer as I was born in Hereford.

Untie the leaders that came with the handles. Use the shortest possible loop made from them attached to the handles and attach the TK leaders to them. Save the rest of the originals to replace them as they wear out.

Hi, and welcome to the forum. I don't know how much experience you have, but whether you need help or can help others it's good to have you here to share the joy. Smile, have fun and don't forget to breathe.

Mega-fly of three people? Come on UK flyers -- you can do better than that!

Small kite + short lines = high speed. If you're about to crash, just drop the handles. Let them go. That means don't wrap them around your wrists. They won't go far. You may have to walk to set the kite back up, but you won't be doing any repairs, which is always a huge plus. But most importantly, smile, have fun and don't forget to breathe.