John Barresi Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 Bit of bad news guys... Quote As the IPS4 platform continues to evolve, we are constantly reviewing our product and service lineup to ensure the products remain relevant in relation to market demand. Chat service is one area in which we’ve seen a noticeable decline in terms of popularity. Some clients have asked for us to further modernize the chat service and add more features. Other clients have asked that we retire the chat service to better focus our resources on the rest of the suite. After many discussions with other chat providers, engaging the community and our own internal discussion and research, we have decided to retire the IPS chat service effective 1 May 2017 (EDT). Existing clients, including those using the free version, will continue to be able to use the service until that date. https://invisionpower.com/ips-chat Once the service phases out, we'll explore other chat alternatives - it has been very useful in the past. Quote
riffclown Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 But I LIKE Chat... bad news indeed.. Can we demonstrate or something? with kites of course.. Quote
John Barresi Posted January 7, 2017 Author Report Posted January 7, 2017 Don't worry too much, we should be able to replace it with another system. 2 Quote
riffclown Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 But I wanted to demonstrate with kites!!! 1 Quote
SHBKF Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 On 1/7/2017 at 2:08 PM, John Barresi said: Don't worry too much, we should be able to replace it with another system. Whew! edit: label me as an avid user & willing to help support it, SHBKF Quote
John Barresi Posted January 7, 2017 Author Report Posted January 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, riffclown said: But I wanted to demonstrate with kites!!! Don't let this stop you. Quote
John Barresi Posted January 8, 2017 Author Report Posted January 8, 2017 Ok, I've been checking out possible replacements... https://www.cometchat.com/demo ($249 one time) https://invisionpower.com/files/file/8217-babble-real-time-chat/ ($100 one time + $45 per year) https://invisionpower.com/files/file/7465-bim41-chatbox/ (free) The last one tends to slow down the website quite a bit, no experience with either of the first two... Looks like Comet is super robust though, and the "docked layout" they offer looks very similar to the Facebook messenger interface, allows you to chat while moving around the website. Any thoughts, based on what you see? 1 Quote
bbailey49 Posted January 8, 2017 Report Posted January 8, 2017 I would dig chatting and browsing simultaneously 1 Quote
makatakam Posted January 8, 2017 Report Posted January 8, 2017 It wouldn't hurt to check the providers' level of commitment. Don't need a fly-by-night site that disappears by morning's light. 1 Quote
John Barresi Posted January 8, 2017 Author Report Posted January 8, 2017 2 hours ago, bbailey49 said: I would dig chatting and browsing simultaneously I'm with you on this - I always forget the chat window the current chat system and inevitably end up ignoring nice folks, not good for multitasking. Will look into Comet's history more, but they sure look like the front runner... Also, one time $249 fee for unlimited usage - supported for one year (including updates), mobile app, and I should be able to get away with an update every 2-3 years (1/2 original cost for another year of support). I can also try the $49 basic version for a really dry test run on KteLife, and upgrade for the difference. We'll keep digging and let this discussion mature, but I'd likely do a straight up donation drive here on the forum 2 Quote
kevmort Posted January 8, 2017 Report Posted January 8, 2017 In truth I didn't know it existed and i don't think I would use it as I use Tapatalk on my phone or my iPad but if I was an avid pc user like I was once I'd definitely use it Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app 1 Quote
riffclown Posted January 8, 2017 Report Posted January 8, 2017 Personally I use it a lot.. There are a few regulars that drop in. 2 Quote
dragonfish Posted January 9, 2017 Report Posted January 9, 2017 Bit late to the discussion...been AFK for a bit. I also frequent chat and enjoy being able to "talk" to other kitefliers around the country and sometimes world. The forum is great for somewhat focused topics, but I like chat because it's a lot more spontaneous and whatever people feel like chatting about. Really hope kitelife chat will continue in some form or another. I'm sure we'll learn whatever new system is selected when time comes. Thanks for doing this for us, JB. 4 Quote
Happyspoon Posted January 9, 2017 Report Posted January 9, 2017 FWIW I've seen other groups (mostly for games like Ingress or Pokemon Go) successfully use Google Hangouts, Slack, even things like What's app for these kind of chats. On the other end of things I bet there are some free IRC chat options that would allow embedding in the website as well as login through phones and such. John, Babble, bim and comet all seem interesting ( I think maybe Babble and comet are the most interesting) but I don't have any experience with them so can't say for sure! Sent from my SM-G920W8 using KiteLife mobile app 1 Quote
John Barresi Posted January 9, 2017 Author Report Posted January 9, 2017 IRC relies on us having a "channel" held open by members or a bot, it does happen where someone will hack a channel and camp on it as a mod. Google hangouts has a limit on potential # of users at the same time. Mostly, it's hard to INTEGRATE either of those seamlessly into the forum experience (single log in) which is crucial for getting folks connected to it. Quote
makatakam Posted January 9, 2017 Report Posted January 9, 2017 As SHBKF would say, "I have know eye deer". 3 Quote
SegelFlieger Posted January 10, 2017 Report Posted January 10, 2017 I would greatly miss the chat feature of KiteLife if it went away. This is one of the only two “live” social interactions I am able to have with other kite enthusiasts. The second being a fellow kite enthusiast here in Spokane who was referred to me on a “chat night” session by dragonfish. He is now a great friend and flying companion. For that I am VERY grateful and I try to participate every "Wednesday Chat Night" with the intention that my social interaction might be of use to others as well. Every week I look forward to “chat night” and I am disappointed when I can’t participate. I am looking forward to a change, or no change. SegelFlieger 2 Quote
John Barresi Posted January 10, 2017 Author Report Posted January 10, 2017 I really appreciate all the feedback, gives me a lot of good ideas and use cases - always welcome! I'm pretty busy until after the first week of February but please rest assured, keeping some sort of chat system available is a top priority. 4 Quote
John Barresi Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Posted April 18, 2017 No obligation but a few folks had asked about this, and we do have a donation station open to get this project done. https://kitelife.com/forum/clients/donations/1-{%3F}/ 1 Quote
Mikelp3586 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Posted April 18, 2017 No obligation but a few folks had asked about this, and we do have a donation station open to get this project done. [emoji6] For the comet program as discussed earlier? Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app Quote
John Barresi Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Posted April 18, 2017 For the comet program as discussed earlier? Yes sir. Premium edition specifically, for mobile device compatibility and other useful features. https://www.cometchat.com/buy Quote
riffclown Posted April 18, 2017 Report Posted April 18, 2017 I'll cover the $249 initial cost 6 Quote
John Barresi Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Posted April 18, 2017 Wow Riff. Just wow. Thank you! That's really kind of you brother, I'll start the gears 'a turning. 1 Quote
Mikelp3586 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Posted April 18, 2017 Riff you are a generous man! Bless your heart Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app 1 Quote
John Barresi Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Posted April 18, 2017 Ok, bought the license - just waiting for them to finalize the order. I'll drop some links here when it's ready for configuration, I'm sure there will be lots of features to adjust. Quote
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