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You might read up on what else Joel Scholz made, and I think he still makes. They range from 'meh' to exquisite, with corresponding values. They're fairly rare to see for sale secondhand, but popular designs can go for a couple hundred.

Hol'up! I'm here! And a few others are too. I try to arrange a monthly fly on the second Saturday of each month but usually it's either just me alone or me and a family member. We've had a few times where some others join in, between about a quarter to half the time. I fly most Saturdays at the same place if I'm in town, but just don't advertise the flying beyond possibly posting a video on youtube. There's Austin End of the Line kite team, but they've been hit by some medical issues last year. There's Go Big or Go Home, although they're transitioning a bit due to age as well. There are a few other people in the region but most are quiet online. As Mebeatee said, there's a lot of views there. I'm not a big fan of the French style, but it's another popular method. It is not so much about the the length, its the difference top and bottom total line length. Go back to when the Rev was introduced in the 1980s and the company had shorter lines on bottom and longer lines on top. Moving a leader to the handles allowed for lines to be equal length, and the longer length could be easily adjusted at the handles. Each kite can have a different 'sweet spot', especially when switching brands or models. I'm a fan of the way John taught it, although I've no idea who came up with it, possibly Lee Sedgwick. With equalized lines, short leader line on the bottom on the longest setting. Put the long leader line on top, find the farthest out that you can still launch the kite, then go in one knot from there. The result mid-air will hover in a neutral position, with the grip balanced midway down the foam on your handles neither pulling forward nor back.

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Yeehaw!!!! Welcome to quad world!!! As in all kites ya can’t just stop at one.....however you have made an excellent point regarding leaders. You can’t generalize making adjustments because, as you say, no one wants to have any level of discomfort when flying. You have to find out what works for you and not what the general consensus is....although I have always used that as an initial guideline. Everyone’s bodies, arms, wrists, the flexibility’s of etc. are all different, as are the movements. Are there adjustment points on the bottom leaders as well? I have a pair of handles where I adjust the bottom rather than the top and works just fine for how my wrists work. I must also add my wrists are a big part of my livelihood.....I am a drummer.....so I’m not going to screw around with them just to go fly a kite or three...lol. I also have a few pairs of handles where I have found the leaders sweet spot for both the size of kite....1’s, 2’s, and 1.5’s (NYM), and the windspeed. This meaning the leaders are set with no adjustment points and I will change to a longer or shorter length of handle according to windspeed.....shorter handles for more wind and longer handles for less wind. This also gets rid of the superfluous bit of leader that flaps around if you are in the middle of the adjustment points for example. My determining factor in finding the sweet spot was to feel how my wrists reacted to a full on dive stop....when the kite stops dead and what pressure is on my wrist. bt

I now have a Rev NYM, and this is my first post. I really hope you won't mind my (beginners)conversation! Once I erased every lesson I ever learned flying a 2-string, it hasn't been hard to learn the basics. Here's my first question for you folks: there seems to be universal agreement that lengthening the top lines helps control. And yet, I have been SHORTENING my top lines, perhaps because I often have minimal or squirrelly winds. I found that I was having to crank back my wrists to a level of discomfort and shortening the top lines allows me to straighten out my grip a bit. I'd love to hear any comments on this subject. I appreciate it! I suppose that I might mention also, that the Rev videos are invaluable to me. Many of you are past them, but I'm not and I don't have a kite community here in Austin Texas, and so no teacher either. Hopefully if I keep flying someone will walk up and go "oh, I fly a quad too!"

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That is good to know, Thanks for the tip !

Hi Windward, Looking very closely at the photograph I am not sure that it is stiches that have failed but the material that makes the pocket has frayed and pulled through the stitches. If that is the case then you will need to do something to stop the fraying continuing. i think that this means bonding the warp to the weft of the pocket fabric so you donot have a raw edge. if the edges of the pocket material are raw edges and the material is dacron, polyester or similar then it might have originally been heat cut/sealed to melt the raw edges to prevent fraying. it does not look like heat sealing the edge of the fray is an option for you unless you are very brave as you have little material to work with. Fortunately the fray is at the open end of the pocket and not too severe. I would try the superglue on the edge of the pocket material to bond the warp and weft threads together and stop the fraying getting any worse. The pocket material edge is very close to the stich line on that side so anything that you can do to reinforce the warp/weft bond strenth will help. Worst case will be replacing the pocket eventually if the fray works further down the side. For openweave fabrics there is a glue called Fray Stop to prevent the unravelling of raw edges but i would not suggest using it for kites. Cheers Stephen

There's a kite group that flies just about every weekend at Brenton Point State Park. If you can make it down there, you'll find some nice people that would be real interested to see your find...

What is the value of a kite like this ? I can not find much info on it. I would also like to get rid of it if someone local would like to purchase. Thanks, Dave

That's a pretty desirable kite..

Hello, I Picked up a small lot of Kite's at my local auction house because nobody else wanted them and it was cheap. I know nothing about Kite's but this one was pretty cool and it's signed . Dave in Woonsocket

A few months later.... (ok, 30 months later), I finally ordered something and after reviewing this forum and chatting with John B, I opted for a Djuice. Wife says I have to wait for Santa to bring it to me, though. After last post the next time I flew kites I spent the entire time helping the family and it just hit me that it was going to be a while before I was going to get any time to try to fly what I wanted to do. So the quad was put on hold and then there was this new kite available now that I should have more time. It was a tough choice because I really like the colors on that Seahawks themed OSK Vertigo. Maybe if the kids decide they want to really fly it can come later (or a custom Djinn). Come January when it is cold and snowy and easy to break parts I will probably be out in the field trying to figure this whole quad thing out. I also ordered spare parts. Thanks for all the help.

A warm welcome here Nita, hope you and your little man are doing fine. 👍

I don't know about the glue, never heard of that one. The usual approach is a few stitches to replace failed stitches, not glue to replace stitches. There are different repairs like punctures which can use glue, but if there is enough pressure to rip out stitches glue is unlikely to be enough. A similarly colored polyester thread will work.

I am so sorry i did not introduce myself. My name is Nita pronounced Nighta. I am a single mom and focused on supporting my little man so I just went straight to it posting kites for sale. Was not trying to be rude. I hope everyone is doing amazing.

I have lots of kites for sale mostley discontinued that you can not get anymore. I am new to this site so not sure of the rules about contacting people but i accept offers on all kites no matter what i might be asking. Most are brand new never flow some are used these r just some quick photos of some of the ones i have nitaharbaughs@gmail.com. https://www.ebay.com/usr/buck.fift-62

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Hi Frob Thanks for responding to my post appreciated. Appears as though the red stitching on the side of the pocket is coming a part a bit and the material the pocket is made of is a little bit as well where it was origanlly stitched down . Question do you know if I could use something like Aqua seal FD to glue the pocket down where it has come apart, instead of trying to re stitch the area glue and weigh it down. Would a thin amount of glue applied with a toothpick do to hold it all back together and stop the stitching from continuing to come apart like new . Or could a small amount of glue disrupt the balance of the kite ? Old ITW kite perhapes the material they used for the pocket could have been better! but I like the kite and it was flying really nicely, hate to see it fall apart any additional input would be appreciated

Wonderful colours! Love it !!

Thank you John, you provide many great prizes. It is greatly appreciated.

Thank you. I have done much web searching and I believe I can sell my kites at a reasonable price. So I have decided to reopen in January. I will be offering basically the same kites I used to offer updated to new material and some new sail patterns. I don't expect to make a lot, just enough to have an excuse to go to festivals. Contact me directly if you want more information.

You've got a couple good kite stores within 150 miles or so, including Kitty Hawk that runs a chain. Call and ask if they want more. Based on how many shops have closed, how many makers keep dropping off or moving to custom-only builds, plus the move of people in general away from kites and outdoors activities, demand isn't going to be enormous. Building amazing products and building brand awareness will both be essential if you're trying to enter the market.