Reef Runner

"I'M IN" Good old #6

Happy "FOURTH of JULY" to all...................

I think it's the other way round. In dog years, I'd be 490!! No Pete, Rob is (almost) right ! But check below - you're only around 11 or 12 Happy Birthday (in a day or so), and many more ! ************************************************************************************************************************* A Dog's Lifespan The old rule-of-thumb that one dog year equals seven years of a human life is not quite accurate. The ratio is higher with youth and decreases a bit as the dog ages. Depending on breed, a dog experiences the raging hormones of adolescence anywhere from eight months to two years or more. Generally, a dog of six has aged about as much as a 45-year-old human. At 10, more like a human of 65; at 12, a human of 75; and at 15, a human of 90. Dog Years A dog's lifespan is only a fraction of the average human's lifespan, which means that a dog ages more quickly in the same amount of time. This chart shows how a dog's age might be adjusted to compare to a human's age. Canine Age Human Age 2 months 14 months 6 months 5 years 8 months 9 years 1 year 15 years 2 years 24 years 3 years 28 years 4 years 32 years 5 years 37 years 6years 42 years 7 years 47 years 8 years 52 years 9 years 57 years 10 years 62 years 11 years 67 years 12 years 72 years 13 years 77 years 14 years 82 years See, you're not even a teenager yet !!

Yep, yep.............no problems, I'm sure............It's clear if you look through the numbers - Joe was the first entry post, picked by the RNG............ Congrats..............Joe

By gosh..............It's KARMA DAY !!!

I agree, that 90# LPG, or 100# BB, should be sufficient, in the middle of your wind range, tail or no tail. If it was really kicking up, as I was setting up, I might slap on the 150# LPG, or a 140# BB. (LPG laser pro gold - BB berry blue) Either way, if that kite is really pulling on you, making you step forward, every now and then, it might just be telling you something! As Wayne said, watch your line sag. If they are constantly sagging and drooping, as you fly, then you've probably got lines that are too heavy for the existing conditions. Likewise, if they are banjo tight all the time, well, you might just be on the verge of a failure. BTW, I have never broken a line, maybe due to luck, or maybe due to using the upper end (?) of the strength spectrum, but either way, I've never felt like I was pushing it too hard, either. As for Wayne's theory on 4 lines verses 2 lines, that's kinda what I've always felt to be true, when comparing to Revs, anyway. I rarely use more than 50# LPG on my B2's, which I fly, almost exclusively these days, but that's quad line, and it's a smaller size Rev. Some days, when the wind is pretty nice (8 - 12 mph), I will actually fly the B2 vented sails with the 50# LPG, and bump up to 90#, on the standard sail. With 10+ winds, it's pretty obvious that the standard is pulling much harder than the vented sails, so why drag around the extra line weight on the vented ? One thing that I will say, about Wayne's math theory (and I think he will agree), is, that during normal, outdoor quad-line flight, the upper lines take most of the stress, most of the time. Pulling straight on against the wind, I suppose the force is spread out pretty equally, on all four lines, but I feel that during normal flight, the upper lines definitely take most of the abuse. I know for a fact, that after a long period of flying, I will sometimes begin to notice, that my top lines are longer, than my bottom lines. This usually becomes evident, when you pair up the lines, and wind them up. When I see that this has occurred, I usually make a note, to switch the bottom lines to the top, and the top lines to the bottom, the next time I hook them up to fly. This will eventually equalize things back out, once again. And speaking of upper verses lower, I do know (as WA mentioned) that there are several quad line kites, both sails and foils, that come from the manufacturer, with different strength lines (stronger top lines than bottom), which seems to bear out our theory, that there is more stress on the upper lines (in quad-lines, that is). Oh well...........we just deal with it !

vented kites are supposed to have holes ! You know, I was going to say that earlier today, but since Rex is running tomorrow's drawing, I didn't want to upset him !

Ha ! You are correct ! Can't break it, but you "can", blow a tube, if it hit's just right, that is..............

Hey Wayne, at least he'll have time to "get over it", by the time he gets back to the handles

Imagine if it had been a quad set ! I'd need a bigger winder!! As it is, I may make a longer winder just so it won't take me as long to wind up those lines. Maybe a nice 16" job out of Cherry with a tongue oil finish. Yep, it'll take a while to wind it up. I had a 150' set, that I made just to fly on the sand dunes. I used it a few times, but eventually chopped it down. Just takes too much time to wind it up. A longer winder should help that..............

Imagine if it had been a quad set !

Great straps..............my favorites ! What size line-set, did you go with ?

Ok John, you gotta get in.................

A few days ago I was thinking about the first song I would try to fly to & had settled on a song from the same album, "Careful with that ax Eugene". I still listen to it every Halloween. Bought that album many years ago base strictly on the cover art. Lucky guess that was. Many years passed as Pink Floyd slowly gained momentum in the RockLife. Maybe the second song would be "Joan Crawford has risen from the grave" by BOC..... Hey Ralph, "Eugene", and his ax, is one of the first songs, back in Rob's earlier post (#30). Might be a little different, than you are accustomed too, but still, it's PF...........

I been digging around, and I've got my "Karma", ready to go, but I've just gotta win something first right ?

5 - 9 - 0 five nine zero % ( )

That's what passes for sand here in New England! Well, you probably don't have problems, with sand getting into your end caps either, I suppose This is what I call sand !

Oh, and "Any Colour You Like", is ok by me.........

Great videos (and music)........... That is one rocky beach you are flying on ! Probably not the best place to fly, if you're prone to crashes (but I realize you are way past that) Good Stuff Rob ! Good Stuff !

Yep, yep, yep...........BTDT..........I'm still this side of "Dark Side"

Quote (at half speed) - "That was pretty avant-garde, wasn't it?".............R. Waters ps............Ok, not exactly flying music, nor my style ! I'll have to admit, I'm "Dark Side of the Moon", forward. And yes, that would be a pretty tough one, to fly to. I agree on all counts, but I bet JB could come up with an awsome routine to it if he had a notion. That would be a tough one, even for JB.......... :ani_wallbash:

Quote (at half speed) - "That was pretty avant-garde, wasn't it?".............R. Waters ps............Ok, not exactly flying music, nor my style ! I'll have to admit, I'm "Dark Side of the Moon", forward. And yes, that would be a pretty tough one, to fly to.

Michael, again, just as Mark has clearly said, and just as I said earlier, pick a kite that you can afford, and one that looks good to you, and go for it (it appears that the B-series is only about $20 more than the SLE). You are making this selection process, way, way, too complicated. I likewise have a SLE. It is a "second hand", 1.5 SLE full sail with 3-wrap frame, which I have had for nearly 5 years, myself (standard, stock, ain't got a clue what it's made out of, and don't care). It's a tank ! You can't hardly hurt it. I learned to fly quad-lines (self taught with "zero" instructions) on that kite, and I crashed it a million times, hard, as did the guy that owned, and learned on it, before me. It is still in nearly perfect shape, and continues to fly great. I did eventually replace the larger (7/16") leading edge, with a 3-wrap 1/4" LE, so as to fly in lighter winds, but I still have the larger SLE leading edge, for newbies, should they want to learn, and crash. But still, to this day, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the sail on that kite, whatever it is made out of (?). My point earlier was that, Revolution Kites, (barring a custom kite) is normally going to determine what material is used for the sail, in the different kites, so unless you are going to speak with Lolly at Rev, and spec out a custom made kite, take Mark's advice, take Wayne's advice, take my advice, just do it ! Pick one and you will be happy with whatever you get, and you will never question, what the sail if made of. That's just not something that you need to concern yourself with. If for some reason, you don't feel that the rip-stop nylon sail, on the standard SLE is sufficient, for whatever reason, then kick it up a notch, and go for the B-series. Either way, you are going to get 13" handles, with or without knots (that's easily fixable), and then you can pick the length of line that you want (probably 80' - 85' would be best for learning). As Wayne mentioned, there are lots of good on-line vendors out there. Just to start, look up AWOC (A Wind of Change), and call them, and ask to speak with Kent Kingston. He will be glad to help you, and he can answer any questions and address any concerns that you have, concerning Revs. Kent is a good guy and he knows his stuff ! Also, call Midwest Kites, and speak with Lyn. I bought my first "New" rev from Lynn. She and Rich spent an hour and a half on the phone with me one day, answering all my questions about Revs. They helped me immensely, just to clear up some of the inner demons, which were creating immense anxiety, over my upcoming purchase. Really, you just need to call some of these people, with a list of questions in hand, and talk to them. They are all great people, and ready to help...... There is no wrong choice ! Good Luck..........hope we all haven't confused you, too much ! Go Play !

Mike, You can't get the B-series, with a SLE (super leading edge). You've got to decide if you want a 1.5 SLE, or a 1.5 B-series. Then you've got to pick whether you want a standard (full) sail, a mid-vent, or a full vent. Either is a great choice. Quit worrying about what the sail is made out of. You are going to get, whatever Revolution uses to make the model you choose. You can't pick that. Just decide which kite you want and buy the package deal, which will include the correct handles, etc. Then get yourself a set of lines, either 85' x 90#, or 120' x 90#. Either will be great, and when you buy the Rev package, they will suggest a line. Pick one...........you can't go wrong.............