Wayne Dowler

Vented SLE, midvent "B", full vent "B" - if your winds are truly in that range. Never flown a quad before? Try asking for something used to start, if you don't get on with it, you can sell it for almost the same price, unless you wreck it. In that wind you want holes (vents)!

That was all my plan this morning, but every time the kite got about half way up, the kite would start to veer to one side (to the right mostly). A couple of times I made it all the way up to the wind window, then the kite would have a mind of its own and off it would go. I've been talking in the chat room between reading all the replies here and have learned that I may have been flying using too much of the top lines. Now I know better than that, and know that I should be steering with the brakes, but with having flying only dualies up to now I may have been instinctively flying with the top lines only for the most part. As is known with a dualie, the only balance you need to know is to pull the lines equally. With a quad, you need to do that as well, but you also need to learn to fly equally with the bottom lines as well. Don't go half way up - stop short of it and hold as long as you can, then back down, Try not to let the kite dictate to you, but you to the kite! Gradually increase the height as you successfully control a lower one!

Simple exercise - launch 10' or so high - stop - land back on tips evenly if possible. Do it at least 10 times in a row. Next try 15' or so. Same thing, stop and pause, then land. You're developing a feel for how the sail works in the wind. Get it that high? Try higher, but still maintain that control over the kite. Small starts.

Which model Rev did you get?? PS: looked over old threads - looks like an EXP? First thing - make some knotted longer top leaders for the handles. Use decent bridle line and make them about a foot long, with knots around a inch apart. Try letting the top lines out about halfway, maybe a knot more. You are trying to find that "neutral" we're talking about. You know you've found it when the kite doesn't just go off at any and every gust of wind. Rather, it's waiting for you to give it a command, forward or back, left or right. Over on the Rev forum you should find a subject - "my leaders, your thoughts?". Has pix of what we are talking about. During setup - check all the line attachment points to be sure they are completely clean, coming off the rest of the bridle. A twist here or there makes all the difference, making that line seem shorter than the rest and causing the kite to have a mind of it's own. Found the link: http://www.revkites.com/forum/topic/4409-my-leaders-your-thoughts/ give it a look see.

What? You already toast the R/W/B?

No, no, wait for a Pro B2, PLEASE!! If it's not something you want - leave it for me!! I'm not picky!!!

One piece skin? Might be made to the Rev 2 profile, rather than a B2 profile. Remember, there was a Rev 2 long before any "B" series kites were on the market. My son has a "basic" one color Rev 2 from 1999!

Should be the same as the old - if you used the same screen name. John??

OK, OK, NOW you have my attention!!! I really had to go back some to find this: Hope it's listening!!

Expand this rear view and you can see their stick arrangement clearer. Still not sure if the batten is one piece or multiple pieces. But at least the sticks are pretty plainly seen!

I think they are trying to put this into some sort of production, whether hand made or factory style. For those on FB (and maybe for more), here's a link to their site: http://www.andykites.com/catalogo/aquiloni/4-cavi/#cc-m-product-5960662664 Should be an English translation mixed in with the Italian.

Update: Saw some pix taken of it in a European comp, that show the stick arrangement clearer. Looks to be a standard setup of lines and sticks with one exception - an extra line going to the center. Don't know how that affects flight, just another line to me! I've read Paul L.'s posts and seen some that have used one line or the other, never both together. Also saw the "batten" a bit more clearly - looks to go through a pocket in the LE, bent into shape and inserted into pockets in the TE. So you really end up with 3 vertical members on each side. Again, unsure how this affects flight, but it looks to be an interesting way of attacking things! If any of you are on FB and would like to see?? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10206579375747191&set=a.1976871945545.116833.1355512583&type=1

Yeah, Steve - pix and good flying!!

Something neglected in team flying is - keeping a straight line while flying, You know all the threading done? What happens to anyone else if you fly an upward or downward line? People are expecting a certain amount of room to pass through. if you go up or down - then you end pushing everyone to make room! Practice picking out something in the distance to fly against and make your lines straight!! Also practice speed control - the ability to slow down or speed up at will. Easy to get caught up just zipping around. Speed control shows off your ability to control things at ANY speed!

Sorry - did not mean to imply that you were tech challenged, but possibly he is! With only one post to his credit, it leaves you wondering about his ability or a want to check things regularly. Understand your bad experience and the precautions taken. No problem there!

Watty put out a video on changing bridles. It is exactly the same for any model Rev (assuming you're using a stock bridle). Takes just minutes to swap out a new one or to adjust in the field even. Meant any of the regular Revs - speed and power kites are a bit different!

IF you can get your hands on an SUL, with 50# lines, it can be a very good light wind machine!

DO NOT remove the "hinge" knots!!!! There should be some up at the top attachment points of the lines! Make sure however, as you setup, that all the legs come off "clean", not wrapped around any of bridle!

Tech challenged?! Hasn't been on since that post!! I'm guessing he is VERY seldom on here!

not overkill - smart! Better to spend a little extra time setting up and getting it right. Develop a system that you ALWAYS do, exactly the same, EVERYTIME! Consistently doing something, turns it to habit!!

Also, here is a quick field test to see if lines are equal - Hold both handles with one hand, at the tops, under the leaders. Hold both bottoms even in the other hand and keeping both ends even with the other, try launching. If the kite goes pretty much straight up - lines are close. If it still goes to one side, you've got a line stretched somewhere!

Really pay attention to the bridle and how your lines attach. It's really easy to get a twist in one of the top line attachment points. Make sure it comes off "clean" on both sides and not wrapped around itself!

Reason for the log was on durability and repairs. He was documenting how many hours were put on what sail and their wear. Cool stats, but I just fly mine til they need replacing!

Glad it's not me only! And glad it wasn't a tech thing on my end!! Know just enough computer to get in trouble!

Well now it's back again - CRAP!!