DTill Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 This forum has been pretty slow lately. Hopefully people have been building things this winter. At Riff`s request I'll post up a design build. I built a roll up bag a while back, as a first reintroduction to sewing. It was crude, but kept me and my kites mobile while flying. After a dog pissed in my Dlk bag that was laying on the ground. I decided this was essential. Built the first bag out of X-Pac fabric from the local store that sells used sporting goods and offers resoleing and sewing repairs. They also have an impressive selection of fabric and notions. Bought , built and sold a few kites and decided it was time for a new bag. This should hold 5-8 Rev's and be seriously over built. Heavy on seatbelt! These pics are of the first bag. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTill Posted February 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 Time for an upgradde? Any "Idiocracy" fans on here? Upgradde! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTill Posted February 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 Built some zippered pockets for lines and handles. This one is going to be wearable while flying but have a little more storage. Buckles are from local climbing company for thier bouldering pads, should be indestructible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 Looks rather serious!! Do you like having the strap go all the way to the top? If it's for wearing while flying, putting it up there might make sense. But I've seen a similar rig at WSIKF. Dr. Vernon and the Foster's use something similar to lighten their load. Theirs is more the open top quiver style, carrying 2 or 3 kites. Because of my team flying, I usually don't carry my kites while flying. We prefer to set up a camp and work out of there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frob Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 I made something similar, a roll up bag with cargo-mesh pockets. In theory it holds up to 15 1.5-size kites plus gear, but I'm still collecting enough kites to prove that number. It's got 5 big kite pockets each able to hold about 3 kites, plus two more that I subdivided into four pockets for lines, stakes, and other stuff. To help with dogs, I keep it and the kites dusted with cayenne pepper with a big bottle purchased at Costco. It is enough that dogs quickly lose interest since it is a mild irritant, not put on so thick it could injure them. I've had too many dogs come sniffing my stuff and think the kites are toys to paw through or catch with their teeth. After the pepper dogs are curious but immediately move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTill Posted February 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 The strap going to the top keeps the weight low, this was not thought out well on the first one. This should work better, but won't hard to change later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTill Posted February 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 Little more grab handle detail. Put a straight stitch along the edge of the seatbelt and stuffed some batting left over from a new front door install. Turned out pretty nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTill Posted February 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Got the three major pieces sewn together today. Pockets are built with 1 1/2 grossgrain, Coats sport zippers, 4- way mesh & 2" seatbelt. Sleeves are built from the same mesh french seamed to 200D double ripstop nylon. Top of the sleeves are edge bound with 1 1/2" grossgrain, 1/2" grossgrain dividing the sleeves, straight stitched and bar tacked at the opening. Next step is hemming the fold over flap and velcro strips. Then edge bind the whole thing in seatbelt. Thinking about capturing some 6mm pultruded tube in the long edges to keep the roll tidy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I might consider rods instead of tubes. Tubes might be lighter, but rods might be less likely to break? Either way, I would leave a way to remove them if they should get broken. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I would worry about tubes getting crushed. Kite bags often get stepped on and otherwise harshly treated. I agree with Wayne about using rods rather than tubes. As far as tidy is concerned the contents pretty much take care of that. I advise not adding any weight or bulk unless absolutely necessary. You can always rip a seam and add afterwards if you think it needs some help. Not that difficult or time consuming at the edges. Overall, your design and workmanship look quite appealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTill Posted February 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 The resolution on the last two photos doesn't seem as crisp as the earlier ones. Overall it's turning out pretty good. The Brother XR1300 I'm using is probably at it's limit, but I'm taking it slow. This bag is all about using stiffer fabrics and reinforcements, first bag was to light and flimsy. As far as rods vs tubes, I have the tubes, so tubes. I fly solo and have never seen anyone near me with a quad, or remotely serious about flying. The coast is 200 slow miles away from me, I only get over there 5-6 times a year. I can manage to not step on my own bag. But good recommendations and thanks for following. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTill Posted March 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 Finally finished this today. Added another buckle and webbing across the top. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTill Posted March 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 Didn't have lines or handles in it, but turned out nice. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffclown Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 VERY nicely done!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTill Posted March 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 Thanks Riff. You've helped me out a lot. This one wasn't without it's challenges, seatbelt is some slippery, squirmy stuff to work with. But the finished product is impressive. This is like a pin striped attaché case for kites. I don't really want to set it on the ground, but it's built for abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frob Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 Looks snazzy. The black plus grid looks professional and business-like, if you go for that sort of thing. So four wide large kite pockets, one narrower, and three small. How will you handle having *only* 5-8 kites with you? 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTill Posted March 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 I think i can stuff 2 more in there, an xx/ Zen and a full vent. Anyone got these for sale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Bell Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Good work DTill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTill Posted May 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 Finished another one. This one is a little lighter and while essentially the same design as the last one I changed a few things. Overall dimensions are smaller, used a stiffer mesh for the pockets, 45ed the corners, the flap is a separate panel and I added a spot to clip my stake. I dig the red stitching and how the red flap looks when its rolled up. Just need to hem the webbing tails, stuff padding in the handle add make a shoulder strap. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTill Posted May 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 Done and ready for quad clinic next month. Hopefully I can build another kite before then. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 For carrying purposes, it was recommended to me years ago, to use two shoulder straps. That way you can carry it like a backpack and not worry about it sliding off to the side. Plus it leaves both hands free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 wow look impressive are you taking orders ? 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTill Posted May 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2019 Probably not, these are bags for me. I wouldn't feel right selling them as a professionaly sewn bag. They are testing different designs to see what works. The cost of materials is about what you want to pay for a real bag. I've seen the Rev bags and there nice. But I can build one that works better for me. Your looking at almost 50-80$ it materials. The bags ive built the outer shell is 30$`a yard, then theres zippers, grossgrain, inner fabric, seat belt, basting tape. I would like to get them dialed enough to reproduce the same one over and over, but I know I'm a tinkerer and could never build two the same. That said, I'd trade the last bag for a B2. But then I'd just build a 2 sized kite and a bag for it. The rabbit hole is deep, I think I'll just keep cutting fabric and see what happens. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 Well good luck on the journey.. but remember to look back every thing looks different from the other side of the mirror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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