Guy Capra (Alomphega) Posted October 14, 2015 Report Posted October 14, 2015 Hello all, I need a lifter with very big power and very good stability. What is the single line kite model which will be able to respond to my need ?(with the best ratio size/power of course) Thank you very much for your sharing of experiences. Cordially,Guy 1 Quote
jeepinjeepin Posted October 14, 2015 Report Posted October 14, 2015 How much lift? What do you want to do? Quote
Reef Runner Posted October 14, 2015 Report Posted October 14, 2015 How much lift? What do you want to do? Good Question ? I wondered the same. Are we lifting laundry, or a 5 lb camera ?????? Quote
RobB Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Hey Guy... I find that the Power Sleds (24, 36, 81) Offer amazing bang for the buck. I never had a Power Sled crash (so to speak), but I did have one break a 300# line. I guess it eventually crashed, but it blew out of sight before it did ! 1 Quote
Guy Capra (Alomphega) Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Posted October 15, 2015 Hey RobB, Thanks a lot for your answer, and yes thanks so much for this good way for my investigations :-) I guessed PowerSleds was the right answer - the best ratio power/size for lifting - and you confirm these thoughts :-) Best Regards,Guy 1 Quote
deerislandbrew Posted November 16, 2015 Report Posted November 16, 2015 Sleds are very stable and the larger ones generate quite a bit of pull. I helped a guy bring down a 36 at WSIKF this last year, and was surprised at how much pull it generated. The wind was at 12 - 14 and we used my pulley carriage to walk it down, (It would have been really tough to walk it down by hand). I fly mostly Parafoils for supporting line laundry and have used 300lb ONLY a few times with a smaller 60 sq ft Parafoil. and in lighter wind. I would suggest using no less then 500 lb for the 24 but stronger line is better. I now use 1/8th Amsteel on my lifter kites that is rated at around 2500 lb breaking strength. The 7/64 is rated at 1600 lbs. This stuff is really tough and it is much lighter then braided Dacron. If you are thinking of a sled kite in the size of a 36 or 81 you should think about getting this line to fly with, or at least 1,100 lb braided Dacron. 3 Quote
mywindstuff Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 We use 36 sleds for all of our events, very powerful, very impressive stability, as mentioned in another post, never had one crash either, and we use this size for all of our line laundry, 50 foot wind turbines, 24 foot fish etc.. 3 Quote
deerislandbrew Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 Nice! I would like to get a sled one of these days, but I already have three parafoils and I know the wife feels like that is enough ha, ha! Quote
DeafThunder Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 I looked it up and watched the videos what exactly this Power Sled Kite is for ? https://goo.gl/l6SmcM Quote
Guy Capra (Alomphega) Posted November 17, 2015 Author Report Posted November 17, 2015 Not sure to be able to continue (some health problems) but you will find the way I done there : www.velalae.com My best thought, Guy Quote
kite-and-friends Posted January 2, 2016 Report Posted January 2, 2016 Like the lifter I tried out lately. It is a Parasled without spars in longitudinal direction called Paralift. It has a lift going upwards so it can carry laundry or cameras well. At present two sizes are offered. A smaller one should be added in 2016. 3 Quote
Guy Capra (Alomphega) Posted January 6, 2016 Author Report Posted January 6, 2016 Very interesting "kite-and-friends", thank you very much for this information ! Could you tell where you bought it please ? Best Regards, Guy Quote
kite-and-friends Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Sorry, I have it directly in Germany from Wolkenstürmer: http://wolkenstuermer.de/shop/paralift-3-1-einleiner.html Don´t know where to get it i the US. 1 Quote
Guy Capra (Alomphega) Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Posted January 7, 2016 Hi friends, Don't worry kite-and-friends, I'm in France and I have found the french distributor : http://catalogue.icare-distribution.com/index.php/paralift.html Bes wishes, Guy 1 Quote
kite-and-friends Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Oh sorry, I didn´t look at your Location. That is great, Icare should have this kites on stock. 1 Quote
vnkite Posted June 29, 2016 Report Posted June 29, 2016 Trilobite is a good choice as well :). It can lift very well. Quote
Guy Capra (Alomphega) Posted June 29, 2016 Author Report Posted June 29, 2016 Hi vnkite, and thank you very much for your advice, but I do not know this "Trilobite" kite, so please could you send a link showing one ? Quote
John Barresi Posted June 30, 2016 Report Posted June 30, 2016 http://www.peterlynnkites.com/kites1/show-kites/trilobite 2 Quote
SparkieRob Posted June 30, 2016 Report Posted June 30, 2016 There are a few big show kites that don't need lifters. I think Peter Lynn octopus' don't need a lifter either. Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app Quote
Guy Capra (Alomphega) Posted June 30, 2016 Author Report Posted June 30, 2016 Ok, thank you very much for the link, John "Papa" Barresi ! ;-) So, to say, the best matching for me at the moment regarding my special R&D seems to be the Paralift. Cheers, Guy 1 Quote
vnkite Posted June 30, 2016 Report Posted June 30, 2016 19 hours ago, Guy Capra (Alomphega) said: Hi vnkite, and thank you very much for your advice, but I do not know this "Trilobite" kite, so please could you send a link showing one ? Trilobite kite is in the video: 2 Quote
Guy Capra (Alomphega) Posted June 30, 2016 Author Report Posted June 30, 2016 @vnkite : thank you very much for this video showing the kite you talk about. :-) Quote
GammoRay Posted June 30, 2016 Report Posted June 30, 2016 I have a Tony Killip 90 (Premier) that is a great showpiece and a monster lifter! I've had it a year and I am thrilled— it pulls like a truck and is as stable as a rock! 4 Quote
DeafThunder Posted July 1, 2016 Report Posted July 1, 2016 9 hours ago, GammoRay said: I have a Tony Killip 90 (Premier) that is a great showpiece and a monster lifter! I've had it a year and I am thrilled— it pulls like a truck and is as stable as a rock! DANG ... the bold line ... just for a light wind ? ... dang !!! Killip Foil Kite 90 - Rainbow Orbit Item: 12791 Size W x L: 102 in. x 126 in. / 8 ft. 6 in. x 10 ft. 6 in. / 2.6 m. x 3.2 m.> Tail W x L: 97 in. x 984 in. / 8 ft. 1 in. x 82 ft. / 2.46 m. x 25 m. Wind range: 6* to 20 mph Recommended line: 500** to 1,250 lb test *6 mph only with no tail and light line**500 lb. test only for light wind Quote
GammoRay Posted July 1, 2016 Report Posted July 1, 2016 DANG ... the bold line ... just for a light wind ? ... dang !!! I don't know what you mean by "bold" line, but I had the Killip on a white 1/4" 1,100-lb line, with the fish kites/laundry run up it on a black 500-lb line. (I wish I had put the Killip on an 1,800-lb line because the winds rose from a little under 15 knots to more than 22, gusting to 24! The larger rope would have been much easier to handle when walking the kite down sideways on the narrow beach.) For scale, the pink shark kite is 20' long, and the black fish (24' long kite) is only half way up the white line. Technically, the Killip is not lifting here, but providing a rock-steady taut line to keep my fish corralled on a crowded beach of flyers. The fish kites and laundry were difficult enough to pull down in the high winds without fighting the Killip at the same time. Quote
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