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All taken care of Thank You..

Happy New Year to you as well.. I too have missed not only flying but the people I fly with a lot this year..

So quite a few changes but I think this will be my list update for 2020. I've decided not to build another kite for this year unless someone orders one. 2020 EOY Update. 10 Revs Red-Black SLE/RWB Trifinity/Old Glory/Skulls/Grey-B Series/Ghost/Shook40%/Shook75%/Blue-WhiteB2/Blue-WhiteB2 6 Freilein Vertigo(all Red White and Blue) 4 Stack/ Max/ Full Sail 2 Freilein Exodus Cool FS/Cool Mid 53 Home-mades (list Below) 8 Symphony 2.2.4 1 Djinn 1 Bazzer Phoenix Midvent 1 HQ Mojo 8 True Power Kites: HQ Crossfire II 2M,3M,4M, HQ Toxic 8M, Flexifoil Blade 8.5M, PL Hornet 2M, Skydog SDT 2.8M, Flexifoil Blurr 3.5M The Home-Made list (53) From Tails (13) (These are retired for the most part but still complete) 2 RWB Full Sails 5 The Original Tails Spectrum Stack (72") 1 Yellow (84") 1 Purple (72") 1 Plaid RWB (72") 1 RWB Mesh (72") 1 Mesh #2 Yellow Green Blue Black 1 Mesh #1 Blue Black Lime Scratch Builds 1.5 and larger (25) 24 Lighted Kite (113") RSN Perspectives Orange and Blue 1-4 (Retired and used as flags) Original Diamonds Jester II (RSN) Scrapestry Crazy Quilt (Scrapesty II) Scrapestry III Gray III Halloween (Trick or Treat) Tangled Web (Widow Mesh) Diamond Mesh Mashup Midnight Ride Midnight Diamonds Vented Grey Mesh Purple Quarantine 1.5 Purple Mesh Perspective Mesh (White Red) RWB Mesh with Vented Stars Sunset Fade (Balanced Vent) (Fruit Stripe) Rainbow (Balanced Vent) Left Rainbow (Balanced Vent)Right Blue Fade 72" (15) Purple Mesh-Stack Blue Mesh-Stack Green Mesh-Stack Yellow Mesh-Stack Orange Mesh-Stack Red Mesh-Stack RWB BV (Balanced Vent) Premier Mesh Yonder RWB Quarantine Grey II Midnight Mesh Purple Quarantine Lymon (Flo Yellow Perspective, Lime LE) Y-T-B (Yellow to Blue Perspective Mesh) New Total is 90 86 (1-15-2021)

It's going to be a lot of fun 20+

Given that I have alternatives, I don't think it'll come out of the bag sub 15mph. You can probably fly it in 10-ish

So this was one of my longest and most frustrating builds.. But finally success!! I figured out how to make his work..

The Midvent would be an Exodus since the Vertigo isn't available in that format.

Marked as completed by seller.

I'm also interested in knowing the answer since I do get asked a lot about fabrics..

I like popcorn also but I really don't feel there is any drama here; just me being wrong.. I've been wrong before..

I don't think the ownership was ever the doubt.. I had merely been misinformed or just outright mistaken as to the source.

OR you can try the brute force approach like I have and try every option.. (WARNING, IT GETS EXPENSIVE VERY QUICKLY)

Will also add that this discussion has been going on in a few circles for about four years now so the lighter fabric is proven at least to some point. I've heard far more about Green Trimmed Rods breaking than Vertigos failing in that time frame. I can't recall but two instances of a vertigo failing and both were a rod break, not a fabric fail. If you are looking for lower bottom end and you want to stay with the 1.5 size then a Vertigo or even a Printed one piece sail would be the way to go. Icarex is not cheap (i buy quite a bit of it) but is also better accepted and IMO has a more define supply chain to the US for those of us that make our kites. As far as the Freilein Brand goes, If Price is the major issue then a pair of Vertigos would be the simple path. (A full sail and a Max) If venting options are the focus, then the Exodus would be the better offering from Freilein. You can't go wrong with the KiteForge Djinn which seems to be at the apex of innovation right now but that price point is a bit steep for many. Revolution is the way to go if you like Springs and just want that brand. but most seasons fliers will tell you to look for used and avoid the green trimmed rods. Revpolo and Phoenix as well as the numerous boutique makers are all pretty solid choices as well. Initially get what works for you and decide from there. As long as you have good quality lines and handles, what's on the lines 35-120 ft away becomes less of an issue for the casual or new flier. Once you progress in skills, the decisions become easier for you but they become much more personal. You won't ask the same question because you will already know most of what you seek. We don't mind the question at all because we welcome new entries into the quad flying world. Just know the more you experience them more you will know what you want to look for next. Bottom line is there's no wrong answer or right answer. it's really what works for you and fits your pocketbook and preferences. Best advice is to start used and something with some resilience to learn on.

My original response edited to strike out the errant statement.

While I appreciate that confidence, I would also keep an open mind to other inputs. There are folks that fly kites way beyond the limits I put my kites through..

If that is the case,I'll retract my statement, I had been under the impression it was a Chinese Polycarbonate..

Four years later I have no complaints and the fold marks have not been problematic in the long run..

Icarex is a name brand for PC31 fabric.. Vertigo is a lighter fabric PC21 and the fear when the Vertigo was first released was the durability of the fabric itself. FWIW, Icarex is also a Chinese fabric. The difference here is the weight of the fabric and expected durability.. Having owned several Vertigos and a few Exodus kites, I have no personal complaints with the durability of either. I will note that the Vertigos have do a tendency to mar at the crease marks and that has been since the kites were new but I have yet to have a run, tear or fabric failure in either model. (I throw launch a stack of Vertigos so I'm not easy on them by any stretch of the imagination) A couple or relevant threads https://kitelife.com/forum/topic/7389-4-lines-your-choices/