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Also make sure they are proper Sky Delight Joel Scholz kites and not the licensed GFAK ones......huge difference. I still have one JS Neptune (dualie) and one single line Parrot left from the stash....lol. The Parrot is decorating part of a wall in my music studio nowadaze...;) I used to have a matching pair of Neptune’s for two at once flying, and a Jaws 2 to fly with the one I’ve kept. They were a few years apart so didn’t quite match like the other’s. So many great kites.....Kestrel, Luna Moth, Hummingbird, and that’s just some of the dualies. Many wonderful “critter” single liners as well..... The late great Ray Bethell turned me onto JS kites as he flew 3 Kestrels at once, and I knew another fellow who had a Luna Moth ul.......yoweeeeeee!! bt

Yeehaw!!!! Welcome to quad world!!! As in all kites ya can’t just stop at one.....however you have made an excellent point regarding leaders. You can’t generalize making adjustments because, as you say, no one wants to have any level of discomfort when flying. You have to find out what works for you and not what the general consensus is....although I have always used that as an initial guideline. Everyone’s bodies, arms, wrists, the flexibility’s of etc. are all different, as are the movements. Are there adjustment points on the bottom leaders as well? I have a pair of handles where I adjust the bottom rather than the top and works just fine for how my wrists work. I must also add my wrists are a big part of my livelihood.....I am a drummer.....so I’m not going to screw around with them just to go fly a kite or three...lol. I also have a few pairs of handles where I have found the leaders sweet spot for both the size of kite....1’s, 2’s, and 1.5’s (NYM), and the windspeed. This meaning the leaders are set with no adjustment points and I will change to a longer or shorter length of handle according to windspeed.....shorter handles for more wind and longer handles for less wind. This also gets rid of the superfluous bit of leader that flaps around if you are in the middle of the adjustment points for example. My determining factor in finding the sweet spot was to feel how my wrists reacted to a full on dive stop....when the kite stops dead and what pressure is on my wrist. bt

Yep, that’s right.... As I recall Dan sold the shop et al to Steve Hall, and on it went for a while. Then Steve had health issues....see way above posts, and the “store” and site went away. A huge huge hole that never filled in many ways. There was also a forum on the Revolution site as well..... Does anyone remember rec.kites Oooh man there were some “characters” back in the day.......and some may say that those daze were the “golden age” of kiting.....especially given the amount of fliers, festivals, brick and mortar stores, printed magazines....... I guess, along with this fine place....thanks John!!!!....a bunch of folks went to whatever facebook or any of that other ilk is. Not pour moi thanks..... bt

Pic(s) would help.... Have you contacted the store from where it was purchased as hopefully they will have knowledge of what they sell..... bt

That would be a TC Ultra....it is both a dual and quad liner as indicated by the way the bridle is configured. There should also be some acrylic handles that came with the kite. bt

Aside from the line and bridle measurements, or a bridle snag as mentioned.... Are you right handed? Sometimes it’s as “simple” as the hands not being “equalized” on the handle(s)...(or even your arms). Pick up your handles and pretend to fly your kite while scrutinizing each hands grip....adjust accordingly... A “doh” moment for sure as well...;)...are there adjustment knots on the handle’s tow lines.....make sure the lines attach to the same knot on each handle. Yep...done that before......lol. Otherwise you may have some funky wind....kewl. bt

Yes to a point....I’ve always liked to call them dancing kites....;) I would fly two off of one line....hence the dance. These daze I’m more partial to “glider” kites....both indoor and outdoors. (I am a drummer by profession and in each stick bag resides an iFlite.....) But then again I’m much more of a low wind kind of flyer to begin with. If there is more wind and I’m still in single line mode I’ll bring out some old “cubes” and fly two or three off one line......or I’ll pull out the prism eo6 or an eo atom. I also have another pair of the atom kite to fly two off one line. bt

Sent a pm with more info as to not clog this place up....;) bt

Yes the winds have been pretty stupid over the last 5 daze or so here on the west coast....no wonder your kite broke...;) I’m close by......Sunshine Coast....and started flying mid ‘90’s in Vanier....when I was in the city. Two things to check out in Van......go see Sally at her shop on Granville Island....yay a physical kite shop of sorts. She is waaay kewl!!!!! The other is where are you and where did/do you fly? Dunno if anyone flys at Vanier these daze. Apparently Garry Point park in Steveston is the place folks who share our love of kites congregate. That lot should be good source of info et al....... I live across the street from the beach on the SC...see the indoor Tsuru pic on site page and some vidz below.....and rarely go into the city. bt BeaTee Riddims Go fly a kite.... https://www.youtube.com/@aleatorasounds4033

Good stuff!!! The best “trick/maneuver” I learned many moons ago was to be able to crash gently..... Done me well!! bt

In the past....and advice from the ol’ GWTW forum...I have used a silicone lubricant on lines a la Riffclown’s method above...spray a wee bit on a cloth and run the lines through.... Usually I let the squeak sounds of the line tell me when to do this....;) One thing I’ve always done with quad lines is to reverse the lines after every session....ie the top lines get set up on as bottom lines next time... Dualies not so much, but I do reverse the lines from time to time. Another thing is a little over the top, but it has helped out and takes a couple more minutes to get airborne. I fly over a mixture of sand and pebble kind of beach depending on the tides so after unwinding I always return to the groundstake and walk the lines again through my fingers before attaching the kite, and then after the session repeat before winding and as mentioned I reverse the top and bottoms lines for the next session. When the lines get too worn out...ie very squeaky...I use them for the kites I have that I don’t mind dunking into the water....older beater revs for instance...some 25+ yrs old..... I don’t mind if those kites or lines get wet as again my flying field is determined by the tides....and am extremely fortunate that the beach is across the street from my house!!!!! Speaking of which I very rarely fly over grass....although on grass at times......puff puff... bt

After finally pulling the trigger on a KMac 61/49, Ken....BMK...announced he was/is ceasing the production of his 2 line lines....Mamba and Tsuru. So I decided....hey why not one more BMK for the collection? I lucked out and got an order in for the second to last dual line kite he will be making....an UL Tsuru in this case. I have a modest collection of both Aerie and BMK kites and had waffled on a Tsuru for a while....and when I got his email I went for it!!!! Mr. MacNeill has made some of the bestest kites ever for many many years, and akin to the Kirk’s making the old Skyburner kites (especially the ProDancer line!!!!!!), they just can’t be beat, and I will treasure them even more now. He is turning his attention to single liners and from what he has been producing already it will be very interesting to see what he comes up with......I’ll be saving up for sure!!!!! Thanks Ken!!!!!!! bt

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Oooo yeah!!!!! Good on ya!!!! One of the first things I learned when starting this long kite journey was how to crash very gently. Best trick/maneuver ever!!!!! Today....tide’s going out and wind is picking up a wee bit. Kite(s) will either be BMK dualies if winds are lowish and Revs if it picks up, and of course a single line glider if the wind goes somewhere else..... bt

Kewel......a mylar sail!!!! That’ll probably take a good wind...it will be beautiful in the air.....great to play with (the) light. I always wanted an all mylar Rev, and still have a 1.5 with mylar panels. I know there was an all mylar Prism Radian made that I snoozed on and loosed..... I owned this kite at one time......a mylar Enigma ul by the late great Steve Tapp of Tappestry kites. bt

There were a few kites where the upper spreader was optional depending on the windspeed. The Trick Tail SUL did not come with an upper spreader iirc, and I remember a couple other sul’s where no upper spreader was added. My Aerie AirFX’s came with two upper spreaders to change the aspect ratio for example. So given that, over the last few daze I have been flying some Aerie/BMK kites as Ken is building me a 61/49!!!!! Again I’m not in the habit of taking pics, but from past pix here is a BMK Mojo (showing it’s “lines”), a trio of Aerie Air FX’ (I flew the two standards), and an old vid of a BMK Mongoose that I’ve put a “soundtrack” to as I’ve been experimenting with some sound design thingies....lol. These, along with a Rev 1.5 NY minute, and an Emong have been flown this past week. bt Hear kites here.... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJzmAJbawZyfstvn2QW8WSw

They come/came from Dave at the Kite Connection shop. I had a few of his “shop customs” over the years. One was in these colours but vented....long gone now. Check with him and he may be able to help. I was perusing the site and the ones he has now are NYM in the colour scheme. The B ones are probably long gone but ya never know...as he has found kites tucked away...;) bt

First off it’s always a good thing to have a few sets of lines in different weights and lengths. In your case, as you have found, an 80’ lineset will accompany a 65’ just fine and give you a wider window to fly in....;) If there is no kite store in your neck of the woods then check out this forums sponsors to the right of these posts.....fine kite shops with great folks.....one of them has your kite listed with a different weight of lines.... You can check out their pre made linesets or buy bulk and make your own....I’m sure there’s tutorials on this fine site as well....re making linesets. There are also shops that will custom make any weight and or length you want.....but this will be spectra line (not dyneema) which is better anyway....another can of worms shall we say....;) bt

I use three different length(s) of handles…..BUT….they are for three different sized kites…;) Longer handles…or known as ul handles are used for bigger kites and/or for no to low winds. A change to longer handles plus a change of frame to a 2 wrap will lower the wind range a bunch. Rev made some indoor handles as well….I like them with a Rev 2 sporting a 2 wrap frame. The original Rev 1.5 sized, and shaped, quad kite seems to be the norm across the board these daze and has been for quite some time irregardless of the amazing companies….note the plural!!!!…that are producing some real nice kites!!!! This…1.5…sized kite is quite lovely, but I like a Rev 1 sized kite the bestest, followed by a 2……then a 1.5 size. A couple of each size and generally…15” handles for the 1; 12/12” for the 1.5; 10” for the 2 and have an original 9” set for a 2. All old school…not knotless…;), some foam a little thicker and some not, steel and graphite…. All stock Rev handles, and except for a couple, are a fixed leader with no adjustment knots. Over many years I have dialed in the handles for each kites size and bridle, and more often will change frames or change handles…going to a smaller handle in strong wind or a longer handle for no to low wind. Besides I can’t stand a knot/length or two of leader line flapping around at the line attachment….even with knotless handles…..there’s still a knot…a small quirk… bt

Yep....can’t go wrong with an Air FX or three......;) bt

The ol’ adage...practise practise practise......lol. A lot depends on the windspeed along with the kite itself, so different “pull and punch” techniques and timings may be involved. All of your references and methods will work....but all must have that back to neutral, and depending on the wind...a step or two forward, more in a goodly amount of wind...;)....as the kite is stalled to properly paste it to the sky. bt

Flew a couple…almost out of their wind ranges….on purpose…..a Prism Zero G and a Flying Wings Grace. Wind was about 5 mph or so and both kites handled the wind just fine. I like the Grace in next to nothing as well as up to about 5 or so….the big wing vent being that ticket, and it “skates” more than glides. I don’t enjoy the Zero G in zero wind, as I have other much more enjoyable glider kites for the literal no wind to wee puff daze. However for me the Zero G comes alive at about 3-4 mph…and today was waaaay fun!!!!! No pix as I don’t have a cel phone and did’t bother with my little cheapo camera….a break in our Juneuary weather lately…..better a memory than a pic…;) bt

Well they are generally called precision kites....a little bigger and more slower.... These daze kites are a lot quieter than in the past....I have a JS Neptune like in your pic and it is the only one I have that will make some noise...like a flying fish farting.....lol. Still an amazing kite after all these years!!! It has to be a real Sky Delight though...;) I am a no wind glider, an all wind Rev flier, and a low wind dual kitester myself. I’m also an old school flier that’s not into tricking per se as I fly kites to slow down and have no interest in the yank and spank flying....although I do admire folks who can do really kewl “tricks”....but whatever...to each their own. Ken Mcniell.....aka Kmac.....Blue Moon kites....makes amazing kites.....I have a modest collection...;)....that bridge the gap perfectly between old school/new school and precision and trick flying....my fav dualies by far!!!! bt