Mike Klaiber Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 The next Karma drawing is from @Mike Klaiber, up for grabs is a Red Prism 4D Ultralight Dual Line Stunt Kite. This kite is only slightly used with maybe 20 total minutes of flight time. Example in flight: The RNG will select the winner on October 3rd at 5 PM EST. Enter with "I'm in" in a reply below, per the usual procedure. Good luck everyone! == Standard Karma Note from the Moderators This is a Karma Drawing. The winner of the drawing is expected to pay it forward by offering their own prize for the next drawing. Please do not enter unless you are willing to offer your own prize, preferably not the prize you just won. Drawings should be open for entry approximately 2 weeks, and the next drawing should be posted as soon as possible to keep the Karma rolling. These drawings are run by and for KiteLife forum members and DO NOT require a paid subscription to enter. The moderating team only ensures that your drawing post contains all of the pertinent information (drawing date/time, adequate prize description, drawing rules) before approval. If you are a KiteLife forum member from the US or Canada, you are eligible to enter. You do not have to be a paid subscriber. Members from Canada, Alaska, and Hawaii are welcome to enter the Karma drawings provided they are willing to pay half of the Karma prize shipping cost. The method and timing of the payment will be agreed upon between the two parties after the drawing for a particular prize. Here is the link to the original Rules and Guidelines thread: http://kitelife.com/forum/topic/5426-rules-and-guidelines-please-read/ The mechanism for the drawing itself is entirely at the discretion of the person offering the prize. In the past, entry number has been determined either by order of entry or by the post number in which the member declares entry into the drawing. The drawings have been performed using the RNG method (http://www.random.org/sequences/) or by choosing the numbers out of a hat (I believe an adorable daughter did the picking in that scenario). The only requirement is that the method of selection is clearly spelled out in the drawing post. Entry into the drawings is done by STARTING a post in the drawing thread with the entry phrase chosen by the drawing host (Traditionally "I'm in", but "I LIKE" has been used as well). In order to remove any confusion or misinterpretation, only entries with posts that START with the phrase will be considered. As with all other KiteLife drawings, bantering is encouraged. This is for fun after all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Great prize @Mike Klaiber, thanks! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Materdaddy Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Wow, thanks for a great opportunity! I've bid on a couple of these (and 3Ds) on eBay, but I'm too cheap and I lose.... just like I'll probably lose this drawing, but I'm going to go for it anyways! I'm in! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I'm in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachprism01 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I'm inSent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffclown Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I'm in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daougie Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I'm in! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paramedic Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I'm in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefaddicted Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Cool kite.. Thanks I'm in!Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szobelda Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 I'm in.Thank for the opportunity [emoji106]Sent from my LG-D855 using Tapatalk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefaddicted Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 If I win this I already know what I'm going to put up here and it's awesome [emoji3]Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exult Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 I'm thinking of the above "Prism 4D Superlight" video. In the beginning it says 0-2mph. I can find no zero wind sequences in this video. The kite is always on the same side of the camera (hm... am I looking for "evidence" in the same way as e.g. a lunar landing denier: https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4536 (debunking!))". During zero wind you need to work to keep the 4D in the air, the kite will/can be in all directions around you and you typically land and start several times. True is that this kite requires very little wind to fly "in a normal" way (and can function well enough with short lines so that you can fly in very small fields). I was out on a new field during the weekend a week ago with my 4D. The forecast said 1m/s (2.2mph), but by releasing seeds from dandelions (a tiny tiny bit humid though) I estimated the top speed to 0.3m/s (0.7mph). Sometimes the seeds just fell plain downwards (zero wind), which is rare outdoors. Since there were quite much people in this small park I hesitated to start at all, based on the limited success I had when the kite was new (about 1year+) with zero wind flying then. Would my say 10 times I've used it (during mostly non-zero wind conditions) have paid off? I'd say that I was able to leave the park without feeling humiliated, but the in air tricks were not more than axles (more thoughts related to this session (and others) will be found in my next flight log dump in "Exults Chunky Log..." (Yes, this is shameless promotion!)). However for me low wind and gentle inputs are a good exercise to become a more complete dual line kiter. Talking of exercise this session meant more healthy physical exercise compared to more normal wind kiting. For my contribution to the mandatory kite drawing drooling I refer to the image in the end of: http://kitelife.com/forum/topic/7260-karma-prism-4d-w-color-choice-8-12-16/?do=findComment&comment=58831 . ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ The above was all I originally intended to write in this post, but if you are slow enough to do the actual posting the reality catches up. Yesterday there was an unexpected low wind session since the forecast told me something different. In the bottom of my kite bag was the "hidden" 4D that I had missed removing when removing the Shadow when preparing for the session. To this point I've almost only used it as an emergency kite and has not used it much when the conditions were good/normal. I used the (long some would say) original about 17m lines that came with the kite. Much to my surprise yesterday it was possible to transfer fade launches and lazies (several, but with recovery by help from the ground) from other kites. It was also possible to to (in my own opinion) nice and reasonably flat axles. These axels were most easily accessible after a downwards turn at the edge of the wind window allowing the kite to sink back lowering it's nose. Having that as a start position the following axel looked goood. After a few sessions, the HQ Shadow (that I got in the beginning of the summer) started to feel like a "real" kite, while I thought the 4D was more only a low wind thing that was probably good for increasing these aspects of your abilities. Now, especially after yesterdays session, I now see the 4D as a "proper" kite as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 I've been at a few indoor events that people tried the 4-D. and it can be done. Just not the best tool for that type of flying - IMHO! Inak, Wren, Echo, Reflection are all better suited. Not saying it can't be done ...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepinjeepin Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Does the 4D stack well? Just kidding! I am quite content with the one I have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Klaiber Posted September 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Does the 4D stack well? Just kidding! I am quite content with the one I have. They stacked up in my closet well, if that helps?Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie R Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 I'm in. Thanks for putting this on Mike!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Klaiber Posted September 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Less than one week left! Great light wind kite up for grabs. Drawing on Monday! Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefaddicted Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 So would it be considered bad if I asked to be removed from this? I think I may be getting one as a gift and I just want someone to get it that doesn't have one. Not sure if I am for sure getting one but I'm pretty sureSent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Klaiber Posted September 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 So would it be considered bad if I asked to be removed from this? I think I may be getting one as a gift and I just want someone to get it that doesn't have one. Not sure if I am for sure getting one but I'm pretty sureSent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app I don't believe so, nice move on your behalf. Fingers crossed you receive one soon!Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Klaiber Posted October 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Drawing at 5 pm today.So far these are the entries I have:@materdaddy@makatakam@zachprism01@riffclown@daougie@paramedic@szobelda@robbier@exult and @waynedowler - just commented correct? No "I'm In" noted. Anyone else? Not to late to enter!Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 On 9/27/2016 at 2:36 PM, Robbie R said: I'm in. Thanks for putting this on Mike!!! Looks like you missed @Robbie R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Klaiber Posted October 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Looks like you missed @Robbie R. Got him just did not space his name or Wayne. Thanks ! Always use a second look.Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Klaiber Posted October 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 10 hours ago, Mike Klaiber said: Drawing at 5 pm today. So far these are the entries I have:@materdaddy@makatakam@zachprism01@riffclown@daougie@paramedic@szobelda @robbier@exult and@waynedowler - just commented correct? No "I'm In" noted. Anyone else? Not to late to enter! Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app Adding @Robbie R and @Wayne Dowler back to conversation. Sorry but did not realize space was critical. Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Klaiber Posted October 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Dang!!! Sent from my iPhone using KiteLife mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Oops, my bad! I see him now. New glasses on to-do list now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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