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The Pro Dancer fits your description to a tee. Hope I haven't given the impression that I disliked the kite. Far from it. PD showed me the mechanics and feel of loading and unloading the sail more than any other kite I've had. Precision practice became more fun and rewarding instead of a chore to improve tricks. It changed my attitude and made me appreciate the more delicate and beautiful moves a kite can do. Without it I don't know if I could fly my Zephyr and Tekken at the bottom of their range yet.I now wrap my handles around my wrist with my forefinger extended(with middle at times). Hold the kite with my other 3 fingers and rarely let the weight rest wholly on my wrist anymore. Started by holding the lines by the loop so I could throw them to minimize damage when crashing. When winds are mostly 20 plus I'm on padded. Haven't figured out what I like best on them yet.Transition without much thought came mostly from the PD. Wrist movements improved greatly also.The kites not a trick kite but I could set up moves. Even though the kite wouldn't complete them I started being able to envision the complete follow thru in my mind. Even when coming to the ground I could keep that in my head and land softly instead of crashing.That transitioned to my other kites really well. Under 3 the kite flew very well with little need to move around. Frustration came when trying to do set ups for tricks. Under 3 here would come the float. Like you I got back issues and am just not quick enough to keep up.I had come to terms to learn more from the PD.Was going to get a ITW Echo to complement it. Unexpected deal came up and I was at a crossroads. AGAIN!! Do I want a Mongoose that bad? Yes because tricks is why I fly and it was on my dream list.100% satisfied with Sky Burner and the PD.Before Jon T accepted my order he made it very clear what the PD was made for. I got it 2 1/2 months into this kiting thing. Most other 0 wind kites would have come thru their time with me at least a little battered. My guess is it's a lot more forgiving than what I'm looking at now. When 1st learning 50' lines a side gust blew it to the ground. Put a small hole by left whisker just above trailing edge. I was crushed. What was I thinking getting a kite like that so early in? Took a long time to get over being tentative when flying it. Pro Dancers are stunningly beautiful in their seemingly simplistic design.The one kite I've had that I really couldn't stand the thought of scarring up. Saw the video of Lams new Gravity 2 zero wind kite tricking in a park today. Okay watched it more then once. Now there's a kite I could fly on 20' or 120'.

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Have not flown either but have researched both. Jive seems to be more tricky. Quantum more durable. I got into kiting for the tricks. Don't like it but have done all kite repairs myself except some sewing on my Hydra. My vote is Jive but the Quantum has more U.S. fans I believe. I was at Into the Wind kite shop and a guy with 2 older teens were wanting to buy a kite. ITW has their own line of kites. Foil and the Quantum were the recommended kites. They left with both.

Got the PD knowing it wasn't a trick kite. Watching Devin, JB and others fly one I figured I could learn how to do what they do. Nope. Can't move fast enough to stay with the kite under 3. I could get a fade, pancake or turtle but the kite would float away on me. Kite was the easiest kite to slide stall for me. Over 10 mph puts the kite at risk. Towards the end started getting some good fun on 50" lines.If tricks aren't a top priority PD is probably a hard kite to surpass.For me wading thru the differing opinions on wind range and what is a true sul gets confusing. I'm at the point now I don't care what a builder calls their kite. It's they're knowledge and skills that built the kite so call it what they will. My only experience is with the Pro Dancer sul, Zephyr ul, Tekken sul and 10 astounding minutes on a Aura sul. People say the PD is a true sul, the Z not a true ul and the Tekken more a ul. I can fly my Z with weight out on 2nd nose in setting in 1 to 2 mph with whiskers angled in. Took a long time to be able to that. I can get some axles and rotations but not much else until winds hit 3. Tekken at 2 mph I'm just trying to keep it in the air. At 3mph it powers up real smooth and much tricking begins . From 4 to 12 kites personality stays the same. From 3 to 10 it's a absolute blast to fly. Inputs need to be clear and concise because it's not very forgiving like the Z. Above 10 I get nervous because of it's lighter framing and my skills. Had the kite in 15 mph with very little if any shudder. 37 years from now when I'm as good as Lam probably be able to trick the heck out of it in 2. Probably have a different kite by then though. Looking to replace the PD the zero wind kites is where I'm heading. Here's my list from top down so far. Air One Grid extra sul and Black Arrow sul. Grid has a slight edge because it's framed in G force skinny. More flex than the Black Arrow Sky Shark frame. I THINK! Don't know though. The next is Level one Amazing outdoor and ITW Echo. DeBakker designs. Videos of the Echo and Skate glider are really cool. I've come to believe 3 kites for 0 plus are needed to cover everything. My main goal for the next year is to build a nice 6th sense sul. Gonna take more than a few tries though. I'm leaning towards the ITW Echo due to price and ITW support. Plus they're fairly close. If my Widow Maker sul doesn't get made I'll be calling BMK. Don't think those are 0 wind trick kites though. That's fine cause I want another low wind kite to fit in with my other 2. Something very different.The Atelier Cesium Continental is last because of all the mylar. Hard to repair mylar and I think I need some better skills for a kite built like that. Kite Shoppe has it for less than 300.00 shipped. Atelier should probably be #1 BUTTT. Couple SKD kites for sale in Israel a few days ago. If not kite poor would have gotten one.After I get a Benson think SKD will be at the top for my next standard.Benson will make you a Phantom. Atelier will make any of their kites from the past too.To make a long rant short I DON'T KNOW AAHHHH!! Yet 😋.

I've seen the HQ Jive around $80.00 U.S.twice Read a few reviews from europe that thought it was descent for the price. The cheaper HQ kites like Limbo and Yukon will have inferior lines making learning harder. The HQ Salsa 3 is in your price range also, along with the better dyneema line set. Passion kites in Singapore has a New Tech at your price but I don't know anything about it.Freilein brand is another that's gaining a good reputation world wide. Their Black Jazz has caught my eye and the cheaper Creator looks good from the specs.Some of the other kites being sold direct from China don't look half bad for the price either.The Prism advice to start is sound. I had more to spend when starting so got a more tricky kite than the Quantum, Nexus or Jazz. A few steps up from the Quantum is the Zephyr. Really like mine a lot.Used kite will get you more bang for the buck for sure but be careful.I have 4 high end kites that I got secondhand. Not a bad one out of the 4. Experienced kiters want more fliers more than quick coin. Look to buy used from them. Ask a potential seller if you should use P400 tubes or 8mm fiberglass rods in the 120mm fighter kite you are building. If they say anything other than don't(or laugh) move on. Me, I'd just hang up the phone on ya thinking you're a prankster 😊. Good luck and stick with it. The first part of this stuff is hard including getting the first kite. Gets even harder as you go BUT the FUN increases 10 times over. Well worth the effort !!

About a month into this kiting thing a Blue Moon Kite was on my dream list. Few days ago this showed up. It's everything I expected and more. Super stoked to have it.Bmk has a reputation for durable kites. This was made 1/11 and is just about pristine. Didn't care for the color much till I put it in the air.WOW!!! Now I love it. Think poison dart frog 🤔. My full size standards are ITW Hydra, Widow Maker Pro and now this. They are very, very different kites. The reviews on this kite have been done by a lot more experienced fliers than me. Read them if so inclined.The knowledge gained is so worth the read whether or not a BMK is something someone would want. I have 0 to add other than be very, very careful if getting a Mongoose. It'll make you really, really want a Mamba and Exile too 🤬.

One for sure thing I've learned is you can't judge a kites color till it's in the air. Starting to wonder if I'll ever see a ugly one. The last 2 just make me smile wider.

My neighbor runs a small RC club and has 2 "real" planes in his hanger. Pretty cool having a private runway right across the street. He makes a lot of his own kit planes, RC planes, helicopters and quads. Father in law was into that real and toy stuff too.They tried to get me into it but no. Go and watch at times. Seems pricey and complex unless I were to compete. He does. Pretty cool having a RC zoom by at 100mph so close ya think you could spit on it.Probably why I'm so keen on learning speed kites. Hanging onto a kite 120' away going 100 mph is just going to be cool.Watched the Dave Larson Yak video. Never watched 10 continuous minutes of RC ever unless being polite. That was really, really cool. Can definitely see what you mean. 6:40 in looks like a real familiar move LOL.I took to the Micron quick too. Last winter I'd go out in 20+ winds with 100' lines. Lines would get tangled up in the grass and kite would hop, bounce and skid all over the place. Amusing but I also gained some insight to how things work. Things happen so fast that some of it sticks just trying to keep up. Kite WILL trick. Just really fast. 20+ winds and my skills snarled the heck out of the 50' set. Not long after I donated it.I like the smaller fast kites equally as much as my big wing kites.I really dig the differences. The Benson Superfly standard is a gotta get it in the next year. 7 footer that flies to 25 mph. Tricks ought to be really humming along in 20. I keep meaning to get a Spiderkites 1.2 speed foil. Thing will go 120 mph and less than $100.00. Fit right in the console of my truck with a little room to spare. Make plans for a kite and some other kite just jumps right in the way.Doesn't really suck though once I wade thru all the how the heck did that happen again stuff 😒.

That's funny . Thinking I was gonna see a pic while I was signing in.

Welcome. Wow, kind of terrifying how fast the dark ones have turned you LOL. I've got a UL Rev but haven't learned to fly it yet. I have a Mind Trick vented (30+ mph) and a Delta Hawk speed kite(45+mph) for high winds. Winds here at times get pretty gusty and bumpy. The Mind Trick handles those winds the best out of my kites. Really need to learn the quads and get one of those weird thong looking things. People here sure seems to twist my head in that direction alot.Flown in 35+ but need to feel what 40+ feels like . Yes it scares me . Fun though .

Nice !! Congrats.

Thank you 🚛. The side gusties can be a little unnerving LOL. That is super cool Jack got to perform. It's one thing to gain skills but putting them on display takes moxy. Imagine it changed him a bit for the better. Next year on my to do list is to go west, pick up my new Fearless II light vented and fly on a beach with a bunch of you spoiled beach fliers 😁. I've got a 32' set but haven't flown with them yet. Leaning towards the Echo and that's the recommended set for outdoor. Replacing the PD is going to be tough. Loved the looks and feel but could never move fast enough in 0 to 2 to keep it from floating away. Getting in a turtle,pancake or fade on that kite is fairly easy. Getting out is a whole different story. Got to stay under the kite and I could never do it consistently. When I could catch something though the graceful way that kite glides thru a maneuver is awesome to watch.Only kite I could make a slide look nice pert near every time.Plan on taking my time in choosing it's replacement. Gotta be careful though. That darn kite addict jitter thing might kick in and blow up my plans. It's happened before. Wow now that I reflect a bit that's probably why the PD left. NUTS!!!

Got to say the Pro Dancer taught me a thing or two. Last week had the best time on it ever. Winds between 0 to 3 mostly on the low side. 50' x 50# lines and really enjoyed myself. Got to trick though.Something like the Aura sul makes more sense for me. When winds are 0 to 2, well nobody has any used Kaijus for sale yet. That must be a good thing.Matilda has moved on and Ricky Ticky Tavy should be here Friday. Pretty comfortable on 50' now so I'll be content for a bit bouncing my other sul and ul up and down until I settle on a 0 plus kite. No regrets on the PD except there was more to learn from it.Just kinda sad it wasn't for me. It's worked out swell though. Now I get to find out why so many of you make such a fuss over anything BMK . Wish I could say this next kite I know "boy oh boy" is going to take me to that next level .It won't but it is sure going to add to the fun in getting there !!

I believe the Yukon standoffs bow. When bowing away from the kite wrapping the line around that part of the kite will break them. Hitting the ground hard with them bowed out makes them more vulnerable too.Kites like my Black Dog and your Yukon will be more prone to stand off issues. They'll pop out more often also. Sometimes in a failed trick or even a soft crash when the angle is right. If you've been flying them out bow them inwards towards the kite. It won't change the flight enough for you to notice. When replacing glue your end cap but wrap the other end in just enough scotch tape to keep it tight. Keeps from having to replace the standoff connector if and when another one breaks. I use carbon rods. Wrap where you are going to cut with tape. Use a very fine tooth saw or dremel. I use a dremel. Keeps the rods from splintering.Yukon is small, pretty light and pretty fast. Kite is tough enough for you to really hone your skills on ground work. Belly launches, axle landings/takeoffs, tip stand tricks and the like. Sucks when $1.50 worth of parts grounds you.

In the fall after our first freeze these hatch . Just on my land tens if not hundreds of thousands of babies spin out 1 to 2 feet of web and ride the winds. They burrow down in the grasses and hide for the winter.In early spring there is another hatching but only about 25% as many.This year was dry and mosquitos being their main food source there weren't many adults to be seen. When food is plentiful the bigger ones grow to more than 5" long.They won't make you sick but trust me their bite HURTS.In wetter years we've seen the prairie covered by so many it looks like dew in the afternoon. Today was the first clear day since they started hatching. About ten minutes in I noticed a couple of hundred or more of them on my flying lines glinting in the sun. It was absolutely stunning. When one would blow off another would attach.At times today I'd stop what I was doing and just twirl the kite across the face of the sun admiring the spectacle. Very unexpected and outstanding afternoon of flying.

Wow got to rethink things again. All this time I thought I've been achieving Zen keeping the kites in the air 😲. Maybe that's why I keep falling over 🤔.

Cell phone service here is poor at times. Went to place my order for the Addiction Pro and phone was breaking up. Went out flying and started thinking about what Riff said(E2 to E3 etc.) and the kites I really, really want. The NEED is gone cause I got a nice well rounded quiver. Saturday I'll be flying with the grandkids and their Addiction. Fever is subsiding and money back in the kite bank.The kite shakes are fun but not very productive. I got a Zephyr 4 months in. Thinking on what Makatakam said I'd have to mostly agree. I fly in my west pasture and get to most every day .For most folks it's an effort to get to a place to fly. Jobs, families ,commitments,time.Makes my rookie year different than most. Forget that at times.First 4 months for me was probably a years time for most people. I still don't have all the adjustments down pat. Mostly but the kite has a lot of different characteristics. Started to move it on many times to fund a custom as I've said but it really is a great kite IMO.It has taught this newbie a ton. How to deal with frustrating adjustments for one.As much as I want to gain top notch skills the pure FUN is what keeps me fixing the dang things and going back out. Hydra is back on the bench this morning for a minor tune up. Do Hickies grrrr.

You hit the nail on the head. The confusion on kite choices has been 1/2 the fun getting the next one I think LOL I change priorities for the next kite a lot.Sometimes because a excellent deal comes up on a kite I wouldn't think about at this stage. My Addiction came in a package deal. Did not think I'd like it but I do.

Hmm must look up short and very, very wide kites.

Well that's how I started. Sorta. Got totally inspired by a guy flying in a wheelchair. Figured $30.00 would get me started. Kept reading and researching. Like RobB I am having to learn thru videos and forums.More difficult but has it's benefits too. Robs videos are fantastic. He's got some awesome kites.Thought I got a good deal on a E3. During that time I joined GWTW. Deal fell thru and glad it did. From what I've read the E2 is the better grab by a long ways. There's probably more than a few people happier than a pig in a puddle with their E3. Wish they'd speak up. It's a stunning looking kite.Talking with my wife she argued for the $30.00 kite. Make sure I'd like it and physically be able to do it. She watched some videos and was very doubtful that I could handle the pull.Took a bit but I can . Most of the time anyways. The Deltahawk and Hawaiian got some pull. Might like never entered my mind. I became obsessed about attaining the advanced skills before I ever got a kite.Fun was a secondary thought but by golly it's more fun than I'd imagined. I understood from these forums and videos that this stuff would not be easy. For me this is a sport not a hobby. For others vice versa.So I got the best I could justify for the $. I was not prepared for the sudden need for another kite. Then another, then another. I like to think it's under control but another kite will be headed this way soon 😖.For a hobby with the "maybe I'll get hooked" kinda hard to disagree with the cheaper kites. Seen some pretty cool stuff done on a Bebop. People have a lot of fun a few times a year on $40.00 foils or single line kites mingling with other kite fliers enjoying the outdoors and don't give a hoot about a Taz Machine.Seen some folks get pretty ticked off when asking for info on a first or second kite and $150.00/$200.00 kites start being thrown at them. It's with good intent because most cheap kites suck or they're fast and hard to control for a newbie.We want people to succeed, stick with it, have fun but most importantly share.If wanting to trick the cheap kites will frustrate a newbie and the risk of them quitting is high. When you fly with the Prism lines you'll never want to use those polyester lines that came with the Limbo again . How many cheap kite buyers have we lost just because they never got to fly on a decent line set? Think if I would have got a cheap kite and not found these forums I would have been one of those people. RobB started on a Vision and look how he flies now. Lots of people begin with a Quantum in their quiver.I'd venture to guess most keep them for a long time. I think most Quantum owners would agree with me though that you should have been more ambitious. You should have gotten 2 more so you could entertain us with another stacked kites video LOL. They are fun to watch. Advancing into tricking with your new kite I'll bet you'll have less broken parts in the 1st 3 months than I did. Quantum is one of the toughest kites out there.So I've read. As time goes by I find myself missing the Premier Addiction more and more. Thought I'd be able to fly the grandkids a lot.For less than $100.00 I don't think I could have anymore wild eyed, no fear, straight up go for it pure D fun in 15 mph winds trying tricks 3' off the ground center window on any kite no matter the cost.But hey that's me. Premier Addiction Pro should be here no later than Tuesday. Supposed to be even better 😲.

Wow world record with 1000 students building and flying their kites at the same time. Didn't know there was so much info on your father. Even at Kite Life. Lots more to read.You people had a 600% rise in kite builders income in just 3 years . That's astonishing!!!. Sounds like your pops and his friends had a lot of influence in that.You too. Some of you need to head to the USA and give us a kick in the pants. Festivals and kiting seem to be faltering here. I live in a large area county of 675,00 plus and have never seen quality kites of any type flying around this area. Lots of big balloons but no kites. We have pretty good winds too.Need to figure out how to change that.Finally connected with some stunt kite fliers but it's over a hundred miles to meet up. Worth it though. The yearly county fair is in a little town 22 miles north of here. Talked to a government worker yesterday about getting some kiting going on for the next fair. Maybe.My 2nd year kiting will begin next month. Bought a sewing machine and materials not long after getting my 1st kite. Backed off and concentrated on learning to fly. This next year I'll start learning the art of kite building. Gonna be fun. Goal is a 100 mph framed speed kite that won't make my arms longer or flatten my nose from faceplants. Flying with you and your dad would be a blast. Will keep following fly360. Great stuff.It's going to teach me a bunch. P.S. I'm more of a Pluto fan LOL.

It's full size. Heard last year the run was done. Don't actually know.It is full size and if under 200.00 U.S.I think it would be worth chasing. Prism has a international line and excellent customer service. Calling them might get you some good leads. I've just about pulled the trigger on a couple 3d deals and on more 4ds then I can remember. Don't want this to sound snobby but it kinda is. When 1st reading up on kites I took the advice buy the best you can afford and grow into it. So I did. So should you. So should every newbie. See kinda snobby. Keep in mind though that when I read about or see pics of a 30,40,50 or 60 kite collection I don't think that's excessive at all . Never flown a 3d or 4d but have seen the 4d on the wall at Into The Wind kite shop. Nice looking kite. To me it seems like a tweener kite. Not really a indoor but close. Above five mph a lot of people think it's fast and twitchy. So not really a kite for the gusties where I live.That is remedied in a lot of fast twitchy kites with lighter inputs and great skills. I still struggle with both so I've bought other kites. Some folks think the 4d is tough. Others not so much. Another reason I think it's a tweener. 4d is awful light and I might have more in parts by now than the initial cost.I tend to go with 80% positive on a kite. I'm to kite poor to risk bad decisions even though there are some 50/50 kites I'd like to try. French Connection for one..I think the Level One Amazing Outdoor would be more up my alley.If I do get a 4d I think I'd like it. Kinda like fast easy to oversteer kites at times. I've read there are a few simple mods you can do on the 4d to stabilize it some. Some people tweak the bridles a bit. Small magnets along TE and wingtips.Nothing permanent and can go back to stock fast.The ease of modding the 4d is why I keep thinking about getting one. Could be a great little lower priced kite with the potential of having quite a few different characteristics I'd like . Just want a Widow Maker Pro sul a lot, lot more. See kinda snobby .

Folks say low wind flying skills are the hardest to acquire. For me 0 to 4 and 25 to 30 mph have been the hardest. Both take finesse but the higher wind demands an extremely capable kite, fast reactions and very precise timing.The only 20+ trick kites I know that are consistently being made with most models are Lam Hoac kites. My Mind Trick vented would be THE kite if I could only keep 1. The wind range is extraordinary. I can fly it in 4 to 5. Starts tricking in 6 and will fly over 30. Got it 2nd hand. Person said they'd only flown it once and I believe it. Heckuva deal. Very pricy new but Lams kite are worth more than the money spent IMHO. When researching you'll find 2 general trains of thought on low wind kites.Some believe a sul should fly in o winds(Pro Dancer). Others will say that's not sul trick kite territory that's the 0 wind kite realm(Kaiju). Neither differing opinion has given me bad info. Just different. When looking at kites I try to see the builders goal at why their producing that kite for that wind range. Gets most confusing when looking at low wind kites. For low wind I have a Zephyr ul(production), Pro Dancer sul(custom) and a Tekken sul(used custom). All 3 fly very different. While the PD will fly very well from 1 mph up to 10 it has been the most difficult kite for me to learn out of all that I've flown. Well except getting my butt kicked by my Delta Hawk in 20+ and giving up on a Elliot Jet Stream Speed(WILL REVISIT). Recently 2 people flew my PD for a short while. Nice axles and 1/2 axles right off the bat. Burned their inputs into my brain and by golly it stuck. Couple posts about low wind at GWTW got me to thinking about mass and light inputs resulting in revisiting some past reads. Yesterday winds were 0 to 4 but mostly 0 to 2.Spent the day on the PD with a 50' line set. Best day ever with that kite by far. Connected with it when I 1st got it but lost it for a good while. Been coming back and yesterday it arrived. Kites a ballet precision kite and very hard to trick. In low winds inputs need to be very light and spot on or kite floats away on me. Builder said in light winds 60' or 65' lines would probably be best. For now the 50' are fine because I can get under the kite or tension the lines easier. When I get some 50# Shanti to replace the dyneema lines it'll even get even better.Have a 50# by 120' Laser pro set and as you get better you'll find out the quality of lines really does make a difference.Today winds will be a little higher and I'll probably fly my Z. See how what I learned yesterday translates. It's a pretty methodical kite that responds real well to smooth fairly slow inputs in light winds. An advanced flier could probably do 95% of the known tricks on it. Not as fast, responsive or exciting as the Tekken but the kite I've learned the most on. I've flown it in 1 to 2. Not very well but getting better. Took lots of hours to be able to do it. Tricks start coming at 3 to4. Handles nicely up to 15 mph. Rated to 18 but I've not found it very pleasant in the higher range.Very rewarding kite to fly. Wow I guess after this long winded rant I'm saying a Z would be a excellent next kite for you.The low wind knowledge is tough to gain but well worth the effort. Lot of walks of contemplation which is not a bad thing .Even the screaming in frustration is kinda fun .

My, my, hey, hey the search for the elusive sul will soon begin dare I say. Bet you won't have just one. Once you start holding the turtle start pulling the nose towards you. Then your in a type of fade. Do it high in the window to start because when you lose it the kite can power up nose screaming towards the ground. Haven't learned the Spine Shock Splinter trick yet. Close but I can live without it. Once the turtle and fade become fairly easy you'll find yourself trying other things pretty fast. The Limbo should be able to slide stall readily. Simple safe trick that for me is pretty hard to do. When you catch them the smooth glide across the window looks and feels really cool. I start my day and end it doing slides(trying to anyways)no matter the wind or kite. When you get a bigger slower kite you'll look back with appreciation on how the faster kite honed your reflexes.That advice don't forget to breath is sound. Sometimes I still forget to and fall over.Been going on for months now 😩. When I regain my senses I still always have a silly grin on my face though. You'll find that pacing your breathing to your inputs makes things smoother and you connect to the kite easier.Takes a while unless you're some kinda yoga, tai chi etc. type person.Keeps one calmer and more focused too. I don't fly with music yet. As I get better doing combos and figuring out routines music in the ear will become integral in progressing. For now I hum ,sing, whistle and mutter a lot. Mixed in with lots of yelps, whoops and laughter.

I watched quite a few trick tutorials before I got my first kite. Got 3 tricks down pat the first time I flew . Nose dive left, nose dive center, nose dive right. Learned those before I could even land properly 😎. Dead easy. The next amazing trick I totally nailed was the awesome Lower Spreader Snap Whaaa . Not quite as simple as the others but pretty easy. As I've progressed the Lower Leading Edge Crack and Holy Blankity Blank Hole in the Sail tricks have appeared in a fairly easy manner. Not dead easy but close. The most advantageous trick I've learned is a compilation of these Zen like maneuvers. Fly it, break it, fix it, fly it again.