Wayne Dowler

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Just one eye?? You know me better than that my friend!!

I don't know Nick, you seem to have turned into a lurker, more than a commenting contributor to the madness!!

The Kite Connection exclusive color I believe, in a 1.5 SLE. Our team leader got one of his "ghost" SULs last year at KP - believe it was one of the last ones he had.

I see you are still a subscriber - so YES!!! Unless you want to give your # away!!! LOL!!

Springs might be wrong - try flexible cables, attached to the vert, and able to compress and expand as pressure develops. Should reshape the sail to billow in as pressure decreases. Yes, a mixed set could increase sail size, but I'm guessing they have a whole set of new rods to sell those that get one! Really all a guess until I get a close up view!

I'll need to put my hands on one before I'm overly attracted. It could be a Zen replacement being bigger than a 1.5 and smaller than a 1. But that also makes a whole new bunch of rod sets to market. That size will mean nothing you have will interchange! And I'm not really sold on the "spring" on the verts. We have enough wear on our sails, let alone having a steel "spring" rubbing up against it! and how is it "captured"? How will it be kept from moving! 90* twist and it's just weight on the rods. Uncharted waters!

Pix are on FB, so no reason to hide them! I'm more interested in performance over looks or gimmicks. Rob's right - no fold strips to make the weakest link any stronger. And look at it and tell me how they plan to vent it!

Just take your B-2s and go away!!! LOL!!!!

Yes - a full vent (F/V) PS: no X/V from the factory, only available as a "Pro". PSS: you wouldn't want one - it doesn't pull enough for you!! LOL!!

I'm using the Zen rods as verts. More wind than those will take - means STD to me! I do tend to switch sails faster than most, I just don't like the feel of excessive pull! Especially in the team flying I do - a lot!! But because the rest of my team doesn't use the Zen, most used as a solo machine or in duets!

Funny thing is that the modified LE rods are lighter than the stock ones - go figure!!

Not for everyone IS really dependent on expectations! If you expect something that leaps into the sky in absolutely no wind - sorry, not happening! Hope that didn't burst your bubble, but way too many have bought it expecting something it isn't!! ANY quad requires good footwork to fly! Light wind may require more! You will find that the Zen really shows any flaws in your flying, The suggested LE swap is a very good fix, change it - ASAP!! The stock frame IS rubbery, you never know when to give the next input !! And you need to learn how to baby it around. It isn't the sports car a 1.5 is, rather a big bus, that needs room and time. That's why the longer lines work - more time to let it react! I've also decided on adding some magic sticks to mine. Been almost 2 seasons now, I like how they restrict the LE, making it even stiffer - to my touch anyway! And I like your selection of lines - I also use either 50# or 90# in close to the same lengths as you! 50' for solo work, 75' or 120' for duets. I do fly it solo, but I fly mine more than most. It was designed to be a team kite, but the over steer was a problem in team flying. Changing the LE helps, but doesn't eliminate the problem - makes it tolerable!! As far as handles go - I have 13", 14", and 15" ones - probably use my 15" most of the time. But not so much for inputs as more light wind leverage. Don't know the tech reasons, but the longer handles just seem to lift better. However as the wind comes up, the shorter 13" will feel better! Or just swap to a STD!! Usually if I feel the need to swap handles - it's time to swap sails! Got questions - just ask - be glad to answer!

You flew a 2-4 on 90#???? No wonder it broke!! Wrong weight line for that sail, in that wind. IMHO!! Were the labels on there from your supplier? Is it possible you wound the wrong line on the wrong winder?? Not accusing you, just trying to figure out a "why".

The only way to tell the length for sure is to stretch them out and compare, As far as poundage - once you identify the lengths, you should be able to figure out the strength, based on thickness of line. The 150# and 200# should be much thicker than the 90#, pretty easy to see if in front of you. Pretty much all the Laser Pro is sold as Gold anymore. LPG.

That was one of the reasons I joined FB - Much more traffic and info on there than the forums in general. Especially updates on festivals. I even did my own local fliers page to post schedules and dates of events!

Nope - not like that! More like 2 handles welded together at the bend. That's still not descriptive enough though. More like 2 "v"s, top and bottom, with a single shaft (for your one hand) in between! Without a pic, hard to explain - hope it helps!

For indoor Rev flying one handed - Penny L. has a custom handle. You steer by pulling on the lines. Everyone I've seen flying Revs one handed outside, puts both handles in one hand. Of course a few can fly 2 revs at the same time - ie, Stevie D, Bazzer, Paul D, as examples. I'm just glad to fly one!!!

I would agree. Either that or someone tried to "mod" those and stopped.

Must be a typo - all Rev factory handles are sold as "odd" sized - 11", 13", 15", etc. And they are measured before bending. After bending they are a bit shorter than the blank used. Sorry - I see you meant the magic sticks!! My bad!!

Silver labels should be marked with a number of feathers - number of feathers = # of wraps. 3 feathers = 3 wraps. 4 feathers = 4 wraps. Yours are 4 wraps. The sail is a midvent, having one panel of mesh on each side. What length magic sticks are they? 12" or 16"? PS: the rods go on the back of the kite!

That's the one - try messaging him for more info!

Was your CC billed? Not sure on the company status. Corey posts often on FB, but doesn't mention the store.You might PM him on FB to see his status with the company?

click on the pic, then click on the "full size" button bottom left. Opens the photobucket account to see more pix. At least it did the first time I tried that.

nice idea - but not what Rev wants. They want the kites to wear out!! Then you have to buy more!!