Wayne Dowler

Bleeping incredible! For some reason I couldn't watch on my computer - but it was full screen on my phone!!! Nice job!!

Even here in Portland, OR - inland winds are undependable at best! Clear fields, whatever, you just never know what you're gonna get! Heck, even the beach has its "off days"! So if you want to fly, best to get a variety of gear suited to many wind conditions. Or give in and learn to fly indoors!!!! There, we don't need any wind!!

Looks like the LE on the one on the right isn't stretched and capped

I may not be an aerodynamics specialist - but - where is the "lift" coming from, if the kite is flat and parallel to the ground and more importantly - wind? Ever just pull a kite out of the sky? Why? No surface to catch wind and recover! Unless you can present some sail to the wind ...? How many kites just take off, laying on a beach?? Remember too - in Joe's video - he was moving at all times, creating "wind" with airspeed. If I remember, even he didn't fly directly below himself, but did fly below his horizon line. We're talking a stationary flier with limits to his movement.

I think I would avoid trying to fly straight down below me. With the kite now flat, there would be no sail to hold wind = dead! I'd feel my way into how far I could push it in that vertical direction, especially if you are trying to avoid, what in that situation would be, the "Walk of Shame"!

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Longer tops! Not bottoms, leave them alone. Switch to longer tops and find a setting that allows you a more "neutral" setup. CK for PM!

You find that person - SEND THEM MY WAY!!

I think "hated" is a bit strong, more like a specialty item, With only 1 model, it's not as versatile as the 1.5 models that have 2-3-4 different sails. Because of it's speed, it doesn't lend itself to team flying. And teams do a lot of matching up of sail and frame combos to get their best equipment airborne for a good demo! Kite would be awesome as a solo or for just personal fun! IMHO! It really depends on what you are looking for in your flying experience!!

Before flying the first time - take the lines out and equalize them. All 4 should be as close to the same as possible. Plus it gives you an excuse to practice winding and unwinding, til you're good at it. Also good to untangle new lines! You never know how they were wound. First time out - remember if the kite is going to crash no matter what - LET IT! Learn to give to the kite! What do I mean? Throw your hands forward at the kite, even drop the handles if need be! DO NOT PULL! This only drives the kite harder and faster towards the ground! And possible broken bits!!!! Practice small steps like launching 10' up, then hovering, then land back on tips. Do that successfully a few times, try higher up with the same stop and land. Learn to feel how the kite sail works in/with the wind. Rev flying is a long term commitment, some "get it" faster than others, but the key is "time on the lines". You have to get out there and put in the time to learn your equipment!! Good flying!

Like it was said before - if the opportunity arises to meet with others - DO IT! If not - watch any tutorial on Revs you can. Any questions can be answered here on just about anything Rev related! Question - used or new??

Welcome!! Like dragonfish said - there is no reason to limit yourself to one or the other. Unless you find that one style kite suits you better. With over 20 years of flying, I have pretty much settled on Revs, but I have flown dual lines (still do on occasion). Some things are common to both - learning the wind window, judging wind strength, even how to handle your gear (to a certain extent). But each has its own appeal. oapbillf has it right - there are a lot of fliers in the UK, try meeting up. It will save countless hours of not knowing if things are "right" or not. They may let you try some of theirs, before you decide what you want - worth the effort!!

As long as both sides are as close to equal, doesn't make much difference. But if you need to replace one, might as well do both. Same amount of life that way! Your goal is to make short bottom leaders (maybe 2 knots - 2") and long top leaders (6-7 knots - 8-10"). Make the tops long enough to almost touch the bottoms, when on the handle. Always start knotting from the inside to out, otherwise you'll keep making the leader shorter. Remember - make them as close to the same as humanly possible! Link to what finished leaders might look like - http://www.revkites.com/forum/topic/4409-my-leaders-your-thoughts/

Any length that fits in your regular flying field will work for starters. It will wear out eventually and you can cut it down to whatever length you feel comfortable with. 90# will do for most flying, save the 50# for really light wind and your SUL. The one set of handles will work for both, but if you have the chance, get some 15"s for light wind. They give you a bit more leverage over the kite. Not sure what frames you have, but a 2 wrap or race frame will also help in light wind. But don't use them til accidental crashes are pretty much over. Stick to 3 wrap or (God forbid) the SLE sticks to learn on!

UHHH! That be a Rev in this thread, courtesy of the RNG!

I am a little biased, as I have an X/V to fly when the wind gets that strong!! But you'll find 90# lines are plenty for 99% of your flying! I do have a set of 120' x 150#, but they sit in my bag as an insurance policy. Only thought of using them once so far - gusts to 30-35 mph! Glad to hear you have an Indoor to go with those handles! Just looking on your list, they seemed out of place in your order, made me wonder. Good on you to try indoors, now the season doesn't have to end for flying!! PS: flags, tree leaves, mobiles, all will be in your things to look at for telling wind strength!!

Don't need what you won't use!! The price of them would have gotten something he could use!

May I ask why the indoor handles? I only use mine on my Indoor Rev, never outside. And 150# lines are a seldom needed item in the Rev world, 90# will be all you need unless trying to fly in a hurricane. The 50# work really well in light winds, use them in lots of lengths, 30', 50', 85', 120'. But they will tangle faster than 90#. Sounds like a good start though!

Your kite bag will grow at least once more - think about adding a vented Rev sail to that group!!!

More like you are delusional !!

What I've found is, that it isn't the line so much, as how the sleeving is melted to prevent fraying. Our team bought 4 sets of 50# x 85' for very light wind flying and had 1 line in 16 break. Looked closely at it and found the sleeving was the cause. Melting had made a hard edge that rubbed the line excessively. It broke right at the end of the loop where the sleeve ended.

AH - the mystery, the unfathomable RNG! Just when you think you might have some grasp of how it might work - bingo - things change! Is there some secret algorithm that makes it tick? Combinations of arcane numbers? WHAT WORKS?? Over the years, I tried the silent treatment, being a bit sarcastic, just generally bantering, yelling, posting a GIF telling it - my turn! So far??? Nil, nothing, nada!! It works in its own mysterious ways - no outside influences seem to have any effect. The almighty RNG - holder of mans fate, be it good or ......??

At least sarcasm brought a response!!!!!

Think the RNG is caring? If so - I got beachfront property in Arizona for sale, or maybe shares of stock in the Brooklyn Bridge!!

"Deserving has nothing to do with it!"