i had one in 87 .. i also had a hawaiian team with pulled like a truck .. the spinoff wasa nice kite with a buzz to it but was the top choise for the old skool kiting days here .. back then i saw tons of fliers with them .. their are still some floating around .. if you have one or can get one it would be a great collector .. back then i sold both of mine and now i beat myself up for doing it