makatakam

Indoor requires extra friction, while outdoors requires extra protection. Again, like all other things, there is some compromise, since the material that gives you more friction is softer and wears out faster outdoors. What you use depends on what you do most. The ideal method is one that will allow a quick change from one to the other. I consider indoor flying to be a type of short-line urban flying that doesn't require wind. Some have used their indoor kites outdoors in zero wind, and you definitely want to protect ALL the tips when you do that.

I only have one bag of quads. There's 17 of them, assorted line sets handles and other accessories, stuffed in there. Just one bag, though.

Anything that will grip any surface you land on or take off from enough so the kite doesn't slide more than you want it to. Vinyl caps, rubber tubing that can slide over the plastic endcap that can be easily removed and replaced as it wears. Its only purposes is to give you a moment of stability when you land so the kite doesn't slide and fall over, and to keep the plastic ones that the bungees run through from getting all chewed up. This applies to surfaces like concrete and blacktop. If you fly in small grassy areas it's not necessary. On very smooth surfaces, like gym floors, you may even want something "gummier" than rubber or vinyl.

Hi, NomadFlyer, and welcome to the forum. Not a whole lot of flyers in your neck of the woods that I know of. The one exception is Jeff Faje, who is right in or around Denver. He's a member of the 180GO! official Revolution Kite kite team, and although he's more into quad-line kites, he knows his way around dual-line kites also. You can PM him here or on the IKE (Illinois Kite Enthusiasts) forum. I'm sure he'd be happy to join you on the field. I'm trying to remember his handle on this forum -- he's not very active here, but he'll definitely respond on the IKE forum, where his handle is his name. If I remember his handle here I'll come back and post it here for you, although your best bet is the IKE forum. It's free to anyone who wants to join, and you don't have to live in Illinois. We have members from everywhere. Have fun, smile, and don't forget to breathe.

Nice find.

Yup, what he said! I use sleeving at the handle end as something to grab instead of bare spectra. I suppose I could just make the leaders longer so the lines are reversible to distribute wear equally. Nuts, I don't really want to change all my setups again! Oh, and make the loops about eight inches long. That makes them long enough to equalize lines by tying knots onto them.

Happy North Easter.

But the free origami lessons are priceless! A well-folded 10m should fit in your pocket. (Assuming your name is Paul Bunyan)

I forgot to mention that I do like sleeving at the handle end. At the kite end I like as little weight as possible. I realize that sleeves don't weigh much, but when you add up all the extra weight I have trimmed in other places, it is close to 2 extra ounces that the kite doesn't have to lift and that makes my kite faster than yours. Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah.

You should specialize in late tax returns. No sweat until August (?) I believe. That way you could fly during kite month.

Looks good. Wishing you enough patience to wait for wind that won't kill you.

One more good reason not to use sleeving.

First power foil? Empty your pockets of all sharp or pointed objects. Don't wear your stake while flying. And make sure someone gets video of the first faceplant!

I tried 240' lines a few years ago at Veterans' Park in Milwaukee, WI. Jynx (Colleen Baker), set one up in light-ish wind. Give launch input......have a drink of water.......kite reacts. Full-time slomo due to line drag. I'm thinking 50# x 180' could be fun.

It might be unique. Worth considering, and not very expensive.

That's why flying with others helps. In difficult situations there's someone to help you.

He who gives, gets. Lip service too.

That's why I don't do SLK's. They're dangerous, and way too much work.

Congratulations, John. Tough one, but you prevailed. Glad you chose the Skysharks. Next time I see Ed I will trade him something for the Rev 1 or the 2-wraps. I can use both, but really don't have much to offer for the Karma right now. Hopefully, that will change.

Is the Rev I the same size as the indoor?

I'm sure he meant 3 feet, not 3 inches. Silk is expensive and needs to sealed also. It will snag on anything rough that it touches. I would use polyester ripstop, unless it just HAS TO BE the same as the original down to the last detail. Also, be aware that cambric and silk have an enormous amount of stretch on the bias (diagonal to the grain), and you will have to compensate for it in some cases. Read the insructions carefully, looking for any guidelines in that regard. Most of all, have fun.

Hi, makoman, and welcome to the forum. I'll see you in Milwaukee this year? Maybe? Two Rivers? Green Bay? Hope you can make it to one or more. I look forward to sharing the field with you.

Smile, have fun and don't forget to breathe. Wish I could join you.

There's a bunch of quad flyers in that area. Odds are very good that you'll be able to meet up with someone.

John Barresi is in the Portland area. He will probably chime in here. If anybody knows Oregon......