Wayne Dowler

not able to see on my end!

Prices are not the "be all and end all" of this discussion. There have been many attempts to use the Rev design. WHY?? Because it works!!! Copies are just that - copies, not any new invention. I can't speak from a legal perspective, but Rev has done all the work, now others want to ride their coattails. Beware - you get what you pay for!! Any after market service after purchase? Factory backing? All they want is your money, plain and simple, after that you are on your own! The kites last a long time if treated well. I still own and fly my first Rev, a Rev 1 over 15 years old! Take care of them and they will last. Frames: tougher than you think! For most uses the 3 wrap frame will serve to do the job well. Handles all the beginner knocks and will continue to be of service as your skills grow. SparkieRob has the right idea on any quad - if you are gonna crash, don't pull, GIVE! That's right - GIVE! Throw the hands out, take some steps forward, and lessen the impact of the crash. PS: most of any 2 line control method you know will go out the window with a Rev. A completely different animal in your hands controlled by moving the wrists, more than arms. Good luck on any choices you make!

Nice sentiment, but even the AKA is having issues with keeping members or attracting new ones. So far, I've seen lots of "lookers" but not many willing to immerse themselves in the kite culture. Why seems the mystery to me??

And if no response - back into the pool!!!

True it is - there are some of us "in" more often than others, but all are invited to join in and add to the conversations. Whatever night you care to join us!!

I'm "on" almost daily, at some point! And I'm always checking to see if the room is used. Lots of times it isn't, so I browse the topics and go off to other forums, FB, email, etc. Most time, if there is someone in, I check it out!!

What's with all the "good luck" crap??!! No Banter? No "getting under the skin"? What is this, a new, kinder, gentler forum giveaway?? Keep this up and I'll,--- I'll,---- I'll die laughing!!!

Bringing up the "fail" word - YUK!! My frustration is mounting!!

Variety, eh??? True the same-o, same-o, hasn't been working, but you never know!!!

Deception works??? Haven't found any "foolproof" method of beating the RNG!!

Poetry? Really?? New highs (or lows) in imaginative ways to impress the RNG! The question still begs to be answered - Will it work??

Thumbnail off the Rev forum.

Still fine tuning it to get the feel I'm used to. But it is coming, just a few mods to finish up, even on a new kite! Looks Beautiful and can be seen in a thumbnail on the Rev forum

Saw it before it said - operation timed out. Very pretty as a demonstration, not practical as a solo performance. Yes they float (fly), but really aren't nimble or even controllable. My preferred flying weapon is the Indoor Rev, highly maneuverable and able to do just about anything you can come up with. That and my gliders are what keep me flying indoors, all winter.

Who do you think did the video??

Look on the "member map" both here and on the Rev forum for local fliers.

If I hadn't got this one this last spring - has a built in biner too!

One of the first things I do to every lineset is put them on all the loop ends!! Like you said, it makes adjusting easy and putting them at the kite end makes changing kites or breaking down at the end of a day, so much easier!

Start out using short lines - I like 30's too! Even if they do tangle, they're not so long to mess with! PS: it's the catching part that's my weak point, throwing is pretty easy!

Have you tried the stiffer frame in it yet (Zen)?? You'll notice it really doesn't hover upright very well, but will hover inverted forever!

DITTO Nick!!

IT CAME, just in time for the "Black Friday" fly on Friday!!! YEEHAW! Link to Facebook image to follow! https://www.facebook.com/groups/400676919957980/

Mostly because the flier is!! I like to think the kite mimics the flier's emotions as it does it's thing! I watched some of my old indoor videos and I can see myself nervous and unsure. But I fought through that phase to be much better at it now! Even in indoor - there's nothing to replace - Time On The Lines!!

Nick hasn't been around in so long, that he doesn't even remember that this is a Kitelife drawing not a "KARMA" drawing!!

Don't I wish!! See first post for time change!!