Wayne Dowler Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 And the light winds that favor these kites requires a LIGHT touch, no bullying the kite round!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainbob Posted March 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 Another 21/2 hours on the 4D this morning. Really starting to love that kite. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 Just wait until you fly the NikNak. That poor 4d is going to gather dust... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainbob Posted March 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 Just wait until you fly the NikNak. That poor 4d is going to gather dust... I was thinking that exact same thing today. So far the winds in my area, are favoring the 4D and other very low wind kites, and affording not many opportunities to fly the Revs, unfortunately. Hopefully that situation will change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joespickles Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 I have an ITW Echo, nothing else to compare it to, but flys well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 I'm sure the ITW Echo is in the same class as the NikNak. From what I hear, it might even be a little lighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainbob Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Nice to see there are some good options for people looking for a kite that can handle low winds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joespickles Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 The winds here are really poor, I need to get brave and travel over a bridge and fly with Rob, I seem to live in a bowl, lots of apartments, trees and hills all around , the wala and the echo get the most flight time,, sadly it's not a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Many are using the Echo as an indoor kite ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkieRob Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Some use the Rev Indoor outside.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadge Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Just wait until you fly the NikNak. That poor 4d is going to gather dust... I was thinking that exact same thing today. So far the winds in my area, are favoring the 4D and other very low wind kites, and affording not many opportunities to fly the Revs, unfortunately. Hopefully that situation will change. You can have some of my wind!! Please take it! It has been a gusty 15-25mph+ ( sometimes up to 50mph+) more or less contantly since NOVEMBER!. ...I got a nice pre owned Benson Deepspace for Christmas and I've been able to fly it for less than an hour!.. .......the only kite that has been seeing any air time is the Delta Hawk!.....I now have very long arms......... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dowler Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Some use the Rev Indoor outside.... QUIET FROM THE PEANUT GALLERY!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barresi Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 My favorite light wind kite at the moment, sadly no longer made... Shiva SUL by Cavalier du Ciel. This video was filmed in about 2-3 mph. <grin> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainbob Posted April 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Just got my new NikNak today. It looks huge compared to my 4D. Can't wait to fly it. Of course, now the wind will be over 12 mph everyday for a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 The winds here are really poor, I need to get brave and travel over a bridge and fly with Rob, I seem to live in a bowl, lots of apartments, trees and hills all around , the wala and the echo get the most flight time,, sadly it's not a lot Let me know... I am so ready to fly with a real kite enthusiast ! Come before Memorial day, the beaches aren't charging admission until then ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skline Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I use a Rev 1.5 SUL in light wind, I also have a B series standard sail with a race frame that seems to do well in light wind. As for your list, the 4D is to small for me, I like a kite that I can feel more. I love the Zephyr in light wind,very smooth and graceful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkieRob Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Low winds would have me on short lines, 30 - 50 feet. I will venture to longer as I get more comfortable though. The kite I would use would be my Rev 1.5 SLE SUL. The set up is Diamond frame, French Bridle and Magic Sticks. I'm more comfortable flying it with 15" handles but I practice with 13" too. If I want to switch it up AND there is no wind, I'll fly my Indoor Rev on 20 feet. Zero wind but heaps of fun. Low wind can be horribly discouraging and I used to hate it. But as your technique and touch grow it becomes quite relaxing. Main thing is stick with it. I'm now making an effort with 2 lines... So now light wind weapon is my Temptation UL on 50 foot of line. I've tried on 100 feet of #50 but I'm not there yet. Slow and graceful. Allows time to get stalls perfected. Also let's me see what the kite is doing as everything is slowed down. Quite enjoyable dual line flying for this quad head! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainbob Posted April 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Flew my new Niknak today. One word, "outstanding". What a difference in flying the Niknak, compared to the 4D. They are not even in the same league. The Niknak is smooth, floats forever, and one pull, and you can bring it to the top of the window with 80 ft lines. Made very well, and looks rugged for a SUL kite. Love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy64 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Flew my new Niknak today. One word, "outstanding". What a difference in flying the Niknak, compared to the 4D. They are not even in the same league. The Niknak is smooth, floats forever, and one pull, and you can bring it to the top of the window with 80 ft lines. Made very well, and looks rugged for a SUL kite. Love it. You talked me into the NikNak. I needed something for light winds. Just got it recently, and I love it. In 6-10mph winds today my E3 was flying nice and slow, but the NikNak was a little speedster. I'm not doing tricks yet, but I can't wait to learn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendkiter Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 Does anybody have an opinion of the Flying Wings AcrobaticX? It is in my price range and I am finding more and more low wind days. Maybe even able to afford the HQ Stratus R2F. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mebeatee Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 On 4/5/2014 at 1:39 PM, Captainbob said: Flew my new Niknak today. One word, "outstanding". What a difference in flying the Niknak, compared to the 4D. They are not even in the same league. The Niknak is smooth, floats forever, and one pull, and you can bring it to the top of the window with 80 ft lines. Made very well, and looks rugged for a SUL kite. Love it. Uh oh, now you've done it....wait until you get your mitts on a Pro Dancer sul..... bt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfoot123 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 i have never flown a AcrobaticX . I have flown a Pro Dancer SUL will fly when my Prism 3d won't pricey but the Pro Dancer is the light wind kite i want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 It is hard to beat the ProDancer, as far as being able to get off the ground when there is no wind. The 3d (4d as well...) is a little more difficult, only because it is a small kite and really requires tempered inputs. It is really easy to yank the little kite out of the air because it requires such a light touch. The Acrobatx UL isn't in the same class, it requires a perceptible breeze to fly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfoot123 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 You are right RobB . i prefer large full size kites. that is why i like the Pro Dancer (would like a Prism Vapor also ) hard to find thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breezin Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 Acrobatx is getting hard to find. I've read where some that really liked the standard didn't care for the UL. Stratus would be my pick because of the wider wind range and tougher frame.You can find it for under $100.00. I haven't flown either. The Flying Wings Zero would probably be the better choice. Those are UL kites. SUL is a different beast and get pricey fast.I've had a Skyburner Pro Dancer and a Prism Zephyr which didn't stay long.Pro Dancer is a ballet/precision kite with very little tricks in it. My SULs are Lam Hoac Tekken and AC. Stupid expensive but in my bumpy winds concluded they were worth the cost. IMO they are.I wish Skyburner still made the Niknak,Ocius(flown) and Aura(flown). I'd have all 3. Do some research and you might be surprised at how low some standards will fly with practice.Traded my Pro Dancer for a BMK Mongoose standard. 100% believe I got the better end of the deal.W/o the weight it'll fly in 2 to 3 but takes 4 to 5 to start tricking well and it's framed in Nitro... My Widow Maker Pro(also Nitro) will too but it takes a bit more effort and has less glide.My Premier Addiction will do some amazing groundwork and low altitude stuff in 2 or 3. Kites light,tough and fast enough to pop 15' off the ground catching some tricky stuff in next to no wind.20 to 25 winds for me are the hardest to trick in. 1 to 3 is the most frustrating.I'm into learning as many tricks as I can. If it wasn't for that I'd probably be happier with a less then $100.00 light wind glider.Some of the things folks do in 0 to 3 on gliders is pretty cool. I don't think you live where winds cycle dramatically. At a similar price point other than the 4D the Kaiju might be something to consider for a SUL kite. Heck you could drive to the MAN to get one and might even get a lesson. Burger and a beer are pretty good bribes for a lot of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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